I really HATE the 2.3 !!

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I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #60 – January 27, 2008, 11:48:11 AM

Quote from: 1WLD BRD;200220

hell we know that.... ask cluade if he would mess with a white XR-7, with it again.... :D

my bird lol not the cat lmao. but you get the point

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #61 – January 27, 2008, 12:30:03 PM

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Parts dont make a car fast, a combo does, you of all people should know that.

And I'm confident his setup was done properly. He's been with the 2.3's for a while. Shoulda learned something:hick:

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #62 – January 27, 2008, 12:40:48 PM

as a mechanic with thirty yr's of spinnin' wrenches,.. i send 2.3's to canadian tire

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #63 – January 27, 2008, 12:58:09 PM

Hey you guys forgot about me ?

I wasnt serious about the Title when I started this thread.

Lets face it we are all Ford lovers ( except for Sleeper T-bird 87 with his chevy motor:))or we wouldnt be here, who cares what engine is in your ride.

I personally like em all, even 3.8's and 4.6's.

In fact I want one of each, but my wife wont let me.

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #64 – January 27, 2008, 01:07:55 PM

Never said I didn't like them (hell for the last 3-3.5 years I've been one of the biggest "keep the 2.3!!!" guys on the net) but we are debating whether they make good streetable high-HP motors.

Everybody knew my car, at least six people here on the board saw it race, and a few have driven it. That car was beat on far more then a "daily driver" should have been. Went over 10,000 miles in 16 months, went from the Canadian border to Lake Tahoe and back, twice (including dealing with really bad snow and ice in the Siskiyou's, Shasta, and Bellingham Bay), and made over 75 passes in under a month. I blew a lot of parts, and a good portion of them weren't my fault. But when you shove 25psi down any engine's throat stuff is going to break! Talk smack about it being slow all you want, I won't argue with you (every single option still functional 88TC with a stereo in it too, ran 100+MPH trap speed, went a few 14.7's going through the lights in 3rd with 2.6 60's for having to "drive it off the line" since I was still on 225/60 street tires).

That car taught me that when it comes to going fast, and being stone cold nuts reliable, the 2.3 is not the way to do it.

Shawn, I'll take you on anytime. I've DW's motor going together here and it's a near-nuts clone of Layla's. We're going to stick into an optionless 88 with slicks and see what's what. It still won't be a street car though

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #65 – January 27, 2008, 01:16:09 PM

this thread should just be locked cuz this is down right rediculious we all have our own opinions and thats it there is no reason to be fighting over cars!!! i have a 5.0 and a 2.3 the 2.3 is my daily driver and my 5.0 is my toy but i love them both for there own reasons the same way te 5.0 guys love theres and the 2.3 guys love theres. so lets just all take it easy!!!:burnout:

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #66 – January 27, 2008, 01:48:27 PM

Why should it be locked? This has been one of the most civil and fact-filled 2.3 vs 5.0 debates in a long time. I'd call it healthy conversation, not a name-calling baby-momma-drama argument.

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #67 – January 27, 2008, 03:04:12 PM

My 2.3 dont sound like a John Deere, so I dont know what your all talking about? I wouldnt say it sounded anything like or close to a V8, but definatly not a John Deere!!
Just about anything could be built to be reliable and strong, but money possibly could be an issue.
I have PERSONALLY rode in a 2.3 that is making a good bit over 300HP, that is a TRUE daily driver, that is PERFECTLY streetable, and pretty dang reliable for making 150++++++ passes a year off of a junk yard short block, and I would have no doubt in my mind that my mom would have no trouble driving this car with NOOOO issues whatsoever. Maybe were just freaks over here

Frank M.

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #68 – January 27, 2008, 03:08:19 PM

god
you all have a right to your own opinion and to argue it
but dont be calling each other stupid because you dont think they know as much as you on a specific topic. You need to know when to draw the line. making personal attacks in someone elses thread about a topic is ridiculous.
Your all old enough to be civil and understand each arguement has there ups and downs. Hell its like arguing chevys better then ford, they both have there ups and downs

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #69 – January 27, 2008, 03:33:23 PM

Quote from: turbo83coupe;200270

Just about anything could be built to be reliable and strong, but money possibly could be an issue.

That's the whole point!

Quote from: turbo83coupe;200270

I have PERSONALLY rode in a 2.3 that is making a good bit over 300HP, that is a TRUE daily driver, that is PERFECTLY streetable, and pretty dang reliable for making 150++++++ passes a year off of a junk yard short block, and I would have no doubt in my mind that my mom would have no trouble driving this car with NOOOO issues whatsoever.

We've said that. Now find a 400HP one. See the point I'm trying to make?

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #70 – January 27, 2008, 03:36:15 PM

I still say prove it, with dyno sheets and milage logs

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #71 – January 27, 2008, 04:54:52 PM

For me or Frank? I assume you're asking Frank since I know my car wasn't even 300rwhp let alone 400!

My best ET was: 14.767@92.06 with a 2.33 60' (launch at idle, shift at 6,000, went through the lights in 3rd). My best MPH was on a 22-second run (it stalled :hick:) went through the lights in 4th at 101.22. My mileage log went with the car when I sold it, but I sold it at 180,005 miles, the new-shortblock engine was installed at 168,9xx in Nov 05, so it went 11,xxx miles in 22 months, but it spent 7 months in a storage garage with a blown turbo and other maladies.

Again, my car was NOT fast, nor did it make 300rwhp (maaayyybe 300BHP at the flywheel). It was certainly not reliable enough for me to trust as my only form of transportation.

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #72 – January 27, 2008, 05:32:08 PM

This thread reminds me of something:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaiEHNv2g6w

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #73 – January 27, 2008, 05:45:07 PM

Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;200299

For me or Frank? I assume you're asking Frank since I know my car wasn't even 300rwhp let alone 400!

not you Aero, the claimed 300rwhp 4 cylinder DD car with 150+passes on it.:hick:

I really HATE the 2.3 !!

Reply #74 – January 27, 2008, 05:57:27 PM

Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;200299

Again, my car was NOT fast, nor did it make 300rwhp (maaayyybe 300BHP at the flywheel). It was certainly not reliable enough for me to trust as my only form of transportation.

well, i can see that your problem must have been b/c it was a 2.3T [/sarcasm]

ill take your example of devastation and raise you one example of my reliable setup.

my motor put down 246rwhp @ 15psi. using dominators generalization of 6hp per additional psi, i would have been makin 276rwhp @ the 20psi i normally ran around with, but i never dyno'd it with 20psi....i did run it at the track.
my best et was 14.68 @ 94.8mph; my best ever trap was 98mph. consistent 2.0-2.1 60fts
my engine had 164K on it when i swapped it into the [first]ranger and the longblock(exc. RR cam) had over 200K when i pulled it to use in my current car.
the engine sat for 5yrs behind the dealer i worked at before i ever used it in the ranger. i slapped a new oil pump in it and some fresh gaskets to keep the oil inside the motor. i have NEVER had the head off*knock on wood*, and it was my fair weather DD the entire 36xxx miles it was in my ranger with no issues what-so-ever beyond a TFI and a set of plug wires.

while your personal experiences with your motor may lead you to believe the 2.3T is unreliable, mine make me think otherwise.
if i was runnin 276rwhp that would put me ~325 at the crank(using 15% loss). this was with ZERO tuning, other than an AFPR and a timing light.
i dont see how porting a head, addin some larger injectors and a tuner would have hurt the reliability of my motor. i do however think that these things could get me an additional 75fwhp....

maybe ill drag this back up when i get there.