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88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #105 –
Sweet, that means you don't need special headers and you don't have to piss with the EGR.  Just put it together like the old one came apart.  Remember to make sure the the ACT is in no. 5 intake runner.  I know you want to keep the intake that's on the car already, but if that one is a late 97+ with external EGR, you'll want to use the one you're pulling off the motor you just picked up.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #106 –
this intake stuff wont go on,, the engine we are pulling has the explorer stuff alreay to go and mod'd.

engine apart, heads at machine shop, springs on order along with rockers

block torn apart, crank needs turned.
cylinder walls are perfect,, we wont bore out at all,, just clean up.

mason dropped a piston,, its cracked.,, oh well.

timing cover is a bitch... thats the only part still on trapping the crank from coming out.

tomorrow, block goes to machine shop.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #107 –
question,,
these heads dont have the egr tube across the back,,
does that require an intake gasket modification or will it all land perfectly since i am buying 97 explorer headgasket kit?

all the short block stuff will be 87 302 stuff.

on a side note,, the driver head rocker arms were so loose they jingled.  not like the pass side
motor must have set so long the lifters blead down.

i rotated the crank to see if this loose issue transfered over to the pass side and it did not.

all the rods and mains have lots of wear,, i my opinion,, some of the aka "copper showing in spots.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #108 –
The lost of the crossover tube isn't a problem.  I believe it was for either A.I.R. injection, or maybe EGR.  Either way forget about it.  It won't be a problem.  What MIGHT be a problem is the intake.  If you're going to keep it, you'll wan't to be sure it's the same as the Explorer engine you have, which is to say, Internal EGR.  If it is (96, early 97) then there's not a problem.  If it is later build, then I urge you to re-evaluate it's carry-over.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #109 –
ill check out the casting on the intake(s) we want to keep.
i have no clue what year intake is currently running, came from thunderjet302, got the upper/lower for my oldest for christmas

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #110 –
Quote from: jcassity;418721
ill check out the casting on the intake(s) we want to keep.
i have no clue what year intake is currently running, came from thunderjet302, got the upper/lower for my oldest for christmas

 
The intake you got from me came off of a '96 Explorer. You're good to go for internal EGR.

The crossover tube on the back of the heads is for the Thermactor system. Since you don't live in a place where they test for emissions just remove the Thermactor system. I did on my Thunderbird.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #111 –
we are going to keep the smog parts installed on the car,, i told mason that one day he's going to be in a situation where he is going to have to throw the belt on just incase of an ispection.
he's in virginia now but still technially a WV resident.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #113 –
I do have a queston though,, rather technical,, not sure anyone can answer but here goes....
 
will the harmonic balancer off an 88bird directly swap onto the ford explorer crank?
 

anyway, great news!! we broke the timing cover on the explorer trying to get it off and being very careful.
 so,,, either we "risk" not having a spare or we "hope" the timing cover that is on my sons bird now comes off easy.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #114 –
You want the one from the TBird anyway, the one from the Explorer wont line up with the other accessories from the car.  Also, the balancer, yes, you can swap them and you should, or else the pulley won't line up.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #115 –
yeah cause i was thinking/remembering stuff i forgot,, i believe the small block fords went from a two piece rear main seal to a single in like 83 or mid 82,  just had to confirm.

Im still deciding if my crank needs polished or turned,, thats holding me up, taking to the machine shop now along with rods.

cant wait to see this roller/needle bearing mod setup for the cam.

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #116 –
If you need a timing chain cover you can get one from Autozone.  They are made by Pioneer who made them for Ford anyhow.  The one I got for my car still has the Ford part number stamped on it.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #117 –
wow, didnt know that

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #118 –
Jay when checking cams you do it either in the ENGINE or on V BLOCKS on the bench with a dial indicator. I guess you could get some kind of an idea with a VERINA CALIPER but i never seen anyone do it that way.  Being though you have the engine apart why not get a better cam. Best bang for the buck for some HP GAINS. Just me. By the way Jay when you are talking about RINGS and pistons as i posted above. POSITION ONE is the first ring land!!!!! Not cylinder ONE!!!

As far as the crank goes do you have the old bearings you can tell from them how the crank is by them. Then mike the journals and see where they are at. Normally if the crank mikes out OK you can lightly polish them and have the rod big ends dun after replacing the rod bolts. The machinest can set the bearing clearance when he does the big ends of the rods. GOOD LUCK~~
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

88 sport rebuild , need advice

Reply #119 –
yeah, i should've used my dial indicator,
i need you to explain that piston/ring land thing earlier and why total seal rings are no go..pls call.
i am changing to HO cam,, thats about all i think is going to be needed to add a little bit to the gt heads.  cant seem to find the additional time to factor in all the possibilities of issues with a larger cam and fuel and eec all working together well.  We only have a certain amount of time and the work im doing now is getting ahead of the game so that when my son pulls up, we are just swapping motors.

Do you want pics of the crank bearings? i can post them up.
As far as i can tell after today mic'ing out the crank and getting the machine shope to look at it, they kinda thought i was being too hard on the crank.
They are going to polish it because its in really great shape.  that helps alot.

so,,,,,,,,
check out this cam beearing

thinking of having them do it to this block.. purdy easy mod to.