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new best city mpg

I've been doing pizza delivery as a side job lately in the cougar. been tracking my mpg's. previously my average on my old 87 302 aod bird was between 14 and 19mpg. i could usually count on 16ish.

Yesterday i averaged 16.8, 90% city, 11 miles out of 120, and today i averaged 20 over 100 miles (15-20 miles freeway, i top off at the end of my shift so i can accurately judge profit for the night.)

I really want to do some freeway driving to see what i can squeeze out of the old 190,700 mile engine. my guess is its gonna be 30+.

i plan on pulling the 275/60's off and throwing a more stockish sized 235/65 out back. should help some, i might even throw on my other rims with 195/60's on them. cougar can't make enough power to spin the big tires, so it should help freeway driving.

Another driver has a late 90's 4.0 explorer and he was turning down deliveries because they were more then 5 mile round trip because he "couldn't afford the gas".

some people.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #1
When I was delivering 18mpg was always my magic number. My 83 302 cougar got 18mpg, and my 80 255 thunderbird also got 18mpg. The 79 2.3 Fairmont got between 18-21, but it was terrible for delivering. It wouldn't get out of it's own way. It was dangerous to pull out into traffic, like on blind hills. Once it was up to speed it was fine, but for the extra few mpg, it was not worth the aggravation. That and it ate a quart of oil every 100 miles (one night of delivering). So the oil cost ate up any savings on gas.

I miss delivering. It's still my all-time favorite job. My wife worried too much about me though. I understand her concern, I wouldn't want her out there either.

Have fun, and stay safe.

Edit: I just noticed that part about the other guy turning down deliveries because he can't afford the gas. "Respect the rotation". That's all I would tell the other guys. When it's your turn, you take what comes up. No skipping around, no cherry picking. Make your manager enforce it. It's only fair.
CoogarXR : 1985 Cougar XR-7

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Reply #2
I've always been impressed with the mileage on these cars.  For being decent sized, comfortable, affordable, and V8 powered, you really can't beat them.

I agree with Coogar about your fellow driver.  I've been working at Papa Johns for the last 16 years (not as a driver though) and that  would not fly around here.  It's his choice to be a driver and he needs to take what's up.  I'd tell his ass to pound sand if I saw him cherry picking like that all the time.
1986 Mercury Cougar - 2.3T/T5 swap, TC brakes and suspension and rearend, 3" exhaust, 255 lph fuel pump, Stinger BOV, Gillis MBC @ 18 psi
2003 Chevy Suburban Z71 - Daily driver
2015 Chevy Volt - Wife's daily driver

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Reply #3
I've learned you can't control other people. my delivery area is a good bit, but none of its big enough to bitch about. i might be leaving unfortinately. its just i got a new full time job.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #4
Make sure you leave on good terms, notice and all, if you like the job. I have been back to work at the same pizza place probably 8-10 times in my life. It's a good safety net between jobs.

Fun trivia, the same manager has been at my store since 1988, lol. He welcomes me back every time I need work.
CoogarXR : 1985 Cougar XR-7

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Reply #5
I just quit the pizza place. i worked 13 hours today, 7 am to 9pm. I'm beat. i am going to call the store manager and ask if i can still work weekends and try cover my next 4 shifts..
i figured when they told me 40 hours a week id be offwrongfully  by 3:30. I was wrong

I'm really bummed out, but at 4 times the pay and 60 hours projected this week, i gotta look out for number 1. I just hope i can do it without burning any bridges. i just can't make the two jobs work, even though i still made good money doing pizza.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #6
I know this is a pizza delivery thread now, but just to jump back to the original thought of MPG.  The Cougar is giving me 24-26 on the Highway, 14-18 in the city.








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Reply #7
Was that Fairmont auto or manual? A manual really brings those 2.3's to life, even the N/A ones!  a 79 2.3 actually had about 5 hp more than a 3.3, since the 2.3 was a 2 barrel, and a 3.3 was only a 1 barrel. I average 23-24 in both of my 2.3 manual Rangers, worst I got in the 85 Cougar was 12, best IDK, 20? My mother thinks I'm joking when I tell her my 3.0 auto 2wd Ranger got about the same mileage as a 5.0.
Current: 1986 Thunderbird, 105k 3.8/C5, 2 tone  Midnight Wine/Medium Taupe, wing windows, wire wheel covers.


Former: 1985 Cougar GS 115k Oxford White/Regatta Blue, 5.0, full console, 14" 8 hole aluminum T-Bird rims, Edelbrock valve covers.

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Reply #8
I'm not sure my freeway mpg, but I'm looking at 50 miles today and.the guage still reads above full. I'm shooting for 600 miles this tank. i have a 1 gallon gas can in the trunk since i discovered the bottom e-1/2 never changes. shoots straight to empty.

after 5 days i should be over 250 miles, and hopefully it can last two weeks till my first paycheck.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #9
IMO, these cars have huge tanks, even a boxy body Town Car only had an 18 gal tank. In the Cougar, I was lucky to go 150 miles before the needle was on half, I can get to 200 in my 2.3 Rangers and those had 15-16 gal tanks.
Current: 1986 Thunderbird, 105k 3.8/C5, 2 tone  Midnight Wine/Medium Taupe, wing windows, wire wheel covers.


Former: 1985 Cougar GS 115k Oxford White/Regatta Blue, 5.0, full console, 14" 8 hole aluminum T-Bird rims, Edelbrock valve covers.

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Reply #10
Quote from: White85GS;431959
Was that Fairmont auto or manual? A manual really brings those 2.3's to life, even the N/A ones!  a 79 2.3 actually had about 5 hp more than a 3.3, since the 2.3 was a 2 barrel, and a 3.3 was only a 1 barrel. I average 23-24 in both of my 2.3 manual Rangers, worst I got in the 85 Cougar was 12, best IDK, 20? My mother thinks I'm joking when I tell her my 3.0 auto 2wd Ranger got about the same mileage as a 5.0.


That fairmont was an auto. I think it was abused before I got it though. It only had 80k miles on it, but it had bad oil blow-by. That 2.3 (auto) verses my 85 turbo 2.3 (also auto) is like the difference between firing a bullet and throwing it. My 85 turbo is fun to drive, that's why I thought maybe a 2.3 NA wouldn't be too bad. That car was nice looking and comfortable, but an absolute frustration to drive. I even had a 2.3 EFI mustang back in the day (1989 model, I think) and it wasn't too terrible. But that fairmont was just a dud.
CoogarXR : 1985 Cougar XR-7

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Reply #11
95 Miles. still reading over full.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #12
Quote from: CoogarXR;431931
The 79 2.3 Fairmont got between 18-21, but it was terrible for delivering. It wouldn't get out of it's own way. It was dangerous to pull out into traffic, like on blind hills. Once it was up to speed it was fine, but for the extra few mpg, it was not worth the aggravation. That and it ate a quart of oil every 100 miles (one night of delivering). So the oil cost ate up any savings on gas.
I forgot to mention, but you wanna talk dangerously slow? The  2.0L (an under-bored 2.3) in the Stripped down model first gen Rangers, they barely made 100 ft lbs!! They only came with a manual trans & 2wd.
Current: 1986 Thunderbird, 105k 3.8/C5, 2 tone  Midnight Wine/Medium Taupe, wing windows, wire wheel covers.


Former: 1985 Cougar GS 115k Oxford White/Regatta Blue, 5.0, full console, 14" 8 hole aluminum T-Bird rims, Edelbrock valve covers.

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Reply #13
Quote from: White85GS;432028
I forgot to mention, but you wanna talk dangerously slow? The  2.0L (an under-bored 2.3) in the Stripped down model first gen Rangers, they barely made 100 ft lbs!! They only came with a manual trans & 2wd.

Story...a buddy of mine in high school rebuilt one of those...85 I believe....but it has been 20 years...LOL  Anyways him and his father totally rebuilt it...engine, paint, interior.  When I finally got a ride in it...it was the slowest thing ever....did look good though....he drove it for years....said it got 23mpg on the road....so slow....like watching paint dry.

Travis

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Reply #14
My old 2.0 b2000 would kill an n/a 2.3. I could chirp 4th gear. got 35+ mpg with or without beating on it.


Also, i accidently drove 75 miles in drive today at 65-80 mph today,  now I'm at 1/2 tank. whoops.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com