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Reply #60
What your looking for on the injectors, is a steady pulse while cranking. If itisn't constant, then it points to a ignition module/pip/dist issue. No need to take off the whole upper or check each one, but I guess it can't be a bad thing to be sure.

The car will not idle as long as you have a tps code, and the maf code could make it run shiznitty too. There are procedures for checking these as well. Let us know what you find.

And mr. Renzo, thanks, you were correct as far as the base idle goes. I was having a brain fart.
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I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Reply #61
Hmm, it couldn't be a maf code. I always get the sd and mass air computer codes mixed up for some reason. I suggest when you finish with the injector checing that you re-run codes, making sure the codes are correct and repeat themselves. The tps code should be a 5 min fix, but might cost some money, and you'll need a voltmeter. You can get a volt meter for $2.99 at harbor freight.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #62
yeah i have a voltmeter and a test light i have another tps sensor but its at my brothers house i have to wait for him to get back in town i was checking pulse by turning the distributor while key was on
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88 tbird lx 5.0 ho t5 swap
04 dsg gt

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Reply #63
What is the wire that connects kinda to the keyed ignition switch itself? Has a little clip that touches the switch
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88 tbird lx 5.0 ho t5 swap
04 dsg gt

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Reply #64
Grounding pin for the door ajar warning. If its the little black on attached to the actual key lock part.

*edit*

Ment the key on chime. Sorry.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #65
ok just wanted to make sure it wasnt important in the car running for some reason
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88 tbird lx 5.0 ho t5 swap
04 dsg gt

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Reply #66
Ok update guys, I dropped the car off with a. Mechanics just because I'm lost. He said he took two plugs out and it would crank up an run, he changed the computer to just try it with one he had laying around he changed the distributor also with one he had laying around he said he was lost with it also said he has never had one like that. Any other thoughts guys?
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88 tbird lx 5.0 ho t5 swap
04 dsg gt

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Reply #67
Yup...

Run codes, check/fix tps and do a base idle reset, then clean your maf.

And then, re-run codes...
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #68
Wait, ignore the maf thing...
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #69
Okay guys I got the car fixed today got to thinking about the cats being clogged up, and unbolted the exhaust and it fired right up so I put my shorty headers and off road h pipe on it. I have to get the
It to the exhaust shop now.
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88 tbird lx 5.0 ho t5 swap
04 dsg gt

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Reply #70
Fascinating how this car went from no SPARK to clogged cats. I guess i am getting OLD. Easiest way to determine this is by back pressure readings. 2 seconds would have corrected this and a quick back hand to the tail pipe would have settled the issue in 2 seconds. Or a vacuum gauge would have pinpointed it. Normally a start and stall is dead nuts for a clogged CATS. Just saying!!
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #71
Just never thought the cats were the issue, an as stated before I don't have a lot of tools or money to buy tools an stuff, all the parts except the fuel pump I already had.
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88 tbird lx 5.0 ho t5 swap
04 dsg gt

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Reply #72
Glad you got it figured out, but it sucks it will be so expensive.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

 

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Reply #73
Well I had headers and off road hnpipe laying in my building so I put that stuff on an I'm happy I got it fixed thanks to everybody for your help.
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88 tbird lx 5.0 ho t5 swap
04 dsg gt

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Reply #74
I think you still need to find out why your cats got clogged.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com