How much would you pay for an MKVII?

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How much would you pay for an MKVII?

February 17, 2012, 12:26:59 PM

I'm looking at an 87 Lincoln MK VII. The seller is asking $900, which I think is a little high. The transmission is "acting up" but he states that it has the 225 HP 5.0. Assuming he's correct, that means it has E7 heads as opposed to the E6s. Would the 87 HO have forged pistons? I plan on taking the engine and putting it in my car, along with the entire exhaust system. Cats will be cashed in, but I want the headers and with a little welding I can have my exhaust actually exit out of the back of the car. I'll be taking the 8.8 disk brakes rear end. He says it has 3.27 gears and traction lock. I'll be using the front rotors and calipers as well. Might need the spindles as well? I don't have a very good understanding of how the front end on our cars work. I haven't had to replace anything on my car yet :hick: I'm hoping to avoid any problems with ABS, I might have to use my old master cylinder. The rest of the car will be parted out and sold piece by piece. Widow motors, lock actuators, any decent looking interior pieces, fog lights, etc. The shell will be sped.

Do you think this is a worthy investment? Thanks.

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #1 – February 17, 2012, 12:38:02 PM

$900 sounds about right for that car around here , however I live in the land of no rust .

I have owned a ton of different cars in my life and by far my Mark VII was my favorite daily driver

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #2 – February 17, 2012, 12:41:54 PM

I had an '87 Mark VII I used for parts, and it had the 5.0 H.O but with flat top pistons. It Does have the H.O engine, same as the Stang. Whether it has the flat tops or valve reliefs, can't say. Yes, it'll have forged pistons from the factory. If the engine is good, and you plan on using it, and the diff and front 5 lug parts, I'd say it's worth it, and you'll get some money back frm selling the shell and parts as you can.

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #3 – February 17, 2012, 12:46:42 PM

Cool, I'm glad you guys think that's a fair price. I'm gonna pull the heads off the engine when I get it home and check to see what's hiding under there. Freshen it up if needed, hopefully it won't need a rebuild.

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #4 – February 17, 2012, 12:50:26 PM

2 things: The 5 lug fronts won't clear anything but the factory Ford 5 lug wheels, as the Lincoln hubs are larger than say, an SN95, but other than that.

And as Vinnie stated, the pistons are forged, and they do have the valve reliefs. Not sure if the '7 spindles will work, but in any case, you can run the 5 lug rotor on an '87-'88 TC or '87-'93 Stang 5.0 spindle.

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #5 – February 17, 2012, 01:05:29 PM

Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;380956

2 things: The 5 lug fronts won't clear anything but the factory Ford 5 lug wheels, as the Lincoln hubs are larger than say, an SN95, but other than that.

easy fix.. pull the rotors, clean them up and visit your local machine shop.. i recommend waiting to do this when you get your wheels of choice, so that you're not wasting time running back and forth to the machine shop, because they haven't been milled enough.. apparently, some people use a grinder to do this, but i prefer to have a professional machinist have at it with a lathe

edit.. and 900 sounds fair.. but if it doesn't say FIRM, offer him less and go from there

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #6 – February 17, 2012, 01:52:07 PM

Screw the machine shop, just pop the studs out, mount it backwards on a brake lathe, and use the drum attachment to turn the center down. Still not gonna help much, though, because the center is still gonna be too tall to fit under most aftermarket wheels...

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #7 – February 17, 2012, 01:57:12 PM

Did I miss the mileage? The mileage is going to have an impact on the condition of the rear, engine, etc...

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #8 – February 17, 2012, 02:01:36 PM

It's a 25 year old parts car....I'd be most concerned with engine maintenance, how it was driven, and what previous mechanical work was done. :)

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #9 – February 17, 2012, 02:06:11 PM

Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;380968

It's a 25 year old parts car....I'd be most concerned with engine maintenance, how it was driven, and what previous mechanical work was done. :)

Absolutely, but there isn't a real accurate way to get that information. You could ask the guy that you are buying it from, but when was the last time you were looking at a car and the owner said "I only changed the oil when it became 4 quarts low and only checked the coolant when it overheated...." which to be honest is how a lot of people look at "car maintenance".

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #10 – February 17, 2012, 02:15:47 PM

Quote from: Thunder Chicken;380965

Screw the machine shop, just pop the studs out, mount it backwards on a brake lathe, and use the drum attachment to turn the center down. Still not gonna help much, though, because the center is still gonna be too tall to fit under most aftermarket wheels...

that does the job, too.. but i can only imagine the look you'll get from the guy you're asking to do it lol the center cap thing is something i haven't completely come up with a solution to, yet.. but since i don't currently own center caps for my wheels.. i have time to find a solution lol

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Reply #11 – February 17, 2012, 02:21:27 PM

I'm betting it has flat top pistons like the '86 Stang 5.0.

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Reply #12 – February 17, 2012, 02:49:19 PM

Well, I went and bought it. Talked him down to 700. The car has 100k on it. The engine sounds good, one of the cats is rattling though. Probably could use a refresh, new bearings, rings, gaskets, etc. I'm not convinced it has E7 heads, it was an early 87, made in February. He said he looked up the VIN number, and a website told him that it had the 225HP version. I don't care too much either way, E7 heads can be bought cheap. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to score a set of GT40s.

As far as the wheels go, I REALLY want a set of those optional BBS wheels. I'll put some nice summer tires on them, then keep this set of wheels for the winter. I'm doing the same thing now with a set of Turbines and the stock steel wheels.

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #13 – February 17, 2012, 02:49:33 PM

I see cancer on the door and front of the fender, I bet the trunk and floor boards are rot as well. I'd probably pass.

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #14 – February 17, 2012, 07:08:22 PM

Quote from: dragon574444;380978

Well, I went and bought it. Talked him down to 700. The car has 100k on it. The engine sounds good, one of the cats is rattling though. Probably could use a refresh, new bearings, rings, gaskets, etc. I'm not convinced it has E7 heads, it was an early 87, made in February. He said he looked up the VIN number, and a website told him that it had the 225HP version. I don't care too much either way, E7 heads can be bought cheap. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to score a set of GT40s.

As far as the wheels go, I REALLY want a set of those optional BBS wheels. I'll put some nice summer tires on them, then keep this set of wheels for the winter. I'm doing the same thing now with a set of Turbines and the stock steel wheels.

What's the VIN? That car could be extremely rare if it's a 1987 with the 225 hp motor.