How much would you pay for an MKVII?

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How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #30 – February 19, 2012, 06:53:18 PM

So I think we can conclude that this car is a very early 88? I'll be pulling the engine tomorrow hopefully, so I might pull a head off to confirm that it has E7s. Thanks for all the help guys!

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Reply #31 – February 19, 2012, 11:03:42 PM

I figured by wheels alone it was an '88.

Should (and hopefully does) have the E7's....I *think* you can determine those by pulling a valve cover? Been awhile since I had to condescend to looking for an E7 though lol.

If you were closer, and didn't need the rear end, I'd be happy to take it off your hands lol

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Reply #32 – February 19, 2012, 11:34:00 PM

8th digit in the VIN is E.....

It left the assembly line with an H.O motor replete with E7 heads.

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Well it could be an 88, built in 87.

Reading through this I assumed the exact same thing. The build tag has me perplexed. I can't think of too many vehicles where the model year preceded the actual year by over 10 months....odd. Not that it's impossible, but highly improbable, especially in situations where there was not a break in production. I would expect to see something like that with a 1984 Corvette.

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Reply #33 – February 20, 2012, 12:39:00 PM

Well the last 3 digits of the VIN mean it was the 579th car to roll off the line for the production year am I correct? That would explain the earliness of it.

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Reply #34 – February 20, 2012, 08:44:33 PM

Its an early 88....that is all.

By law auto makers can call a 1988 model year car. If its built 01/01/1987 to 12/31/1988....yeah almost 2 years. One of the best examples is 1997 ford f150. Starting building them in Jan 1996 and didnt stop until july 1997. The 1987 Buick Grand National. There was 20k built in 1987 model year. The first 10k was built from mid July 86-june87. Then buick built the last 10k from august 87-dec 87(the demand was there). I had an 87 built on September 25, 1987 on a tuesday :). Cutlass Supreme and Monte Carlo where built at the same Pontiac Plant. But cars built after aug 87 they call 1988 model year. Its the choice of the auto maker. The government only cares if they cross the first mention production dates or if emission changes have to take place. As most of the US car makers have notice they do announce model years earlier rather than later. But it does happen when a car line is finishing up production. 1996 Caprice was built right up to the last moment in dec 1996. Mostly Impala SS and cop cars from what I understand. I although I have read that GM actually made more cop cars until mid Jan 1997(that is an internet rumor). They just paid the government the fines. I believe there wasn't any emissions change BS that year to comply with.

Travis

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Reply #35 – February 21, 2012, 07:43:22 PM

Wasn't able to pull the engine today, started to rain. All I had left to do was the bellhousing bolts too...I'll get it done next Sunday for sure.

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Reply #36 – February 21, 2012, 08:22:43 PM

Nice purchase, and with a factory moonroof to boot.

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Reply #37 – February 21, 2012, 10:10:53 PM

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Nice purchase, and with a factory moonroof to boot.

The moonroof is absolutely my favorite part on the car. Hit the switch one way, and it pops up like a sunroof. Flip it the other way, and it slides into the roof like a moon roof.

How much would you pay for an MKVII?

Reply #38 – February 21, 2012, 11:50:01 PM

Quote from: dragon574444;381299

The moonroof is absolutely my favorite part on the car. Hit the switch one way, and it pops up like a sunroof. Flip it the other way, and it slides into the roof like a moon roof.

that's the only thing i liked about my XR7 lol

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Reply #39 – February 28, 2012, 06:36:42 PM

So I'm back with an update. The car had E7TEs and notched pistons. Now I was told it had 100K on it. My dad says however, that the engine looks like it has less than 50k on it. There's no ridge at the top of the bores. There's a fair amount of carbon buildup on them though. I figure I can just put in new bearings all around for peace of mind, hone the cylinder just a little, and new rings. Now assuming this is the original engine, it was probably rebuilt before. I'm 99.9% sure it is the original engine, the numbers in the back of the block are the same as the car's VIN. My dad looked and he couldn't find any marks that say it was bored 30 over, but the rods are stamped with numbers. He says someone was here before, the factory doesn't do that. Could it be a sleeved block? I don't really know what those look like...What do you guys think? I cleaned up the engine a little, so any streaks you see in the bores aren't scratches, and the pistons are cleaned up quite a bit.

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Reply #40 – February 28, 2012, 08:31:38 PM

a sleeved block is easy to spot, with the heads/gaskets off and deck surface cleaned.. you will see that a cylinder has been bored and had a sleeve pressed in.. i'm drawing a blank on a better explanation.. lol

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Reply #41 – February 28, 2012, 08:38:39 PM

Man I would clean everything up and run it. It was in a mark 7. It had a pretty easy life.
Heck the aod would die a horrid death first. It probably has shorties!. Mine did.

Travis

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Reply #42 – February 29, 2012, 12:18:08 AM

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a sleeved block is easy to spot, with the heads/gaskets off and deck surface cleaned.. you will see that a cylinder has been bored and had a sleeve pressed in.. i'm drawing a blank on a better explanation.. lol

See the rings around the cyl? yeah kinda looks like where the rings on the HG would rest. if it was sleeved this would probably be the easiest way to tell other than rolling the motor over and looking at the bottoms of the cyl's they could quite possibly be a lip.

And the markings on the rods that you see.. Ive seen them on every motor Ive ever rebuilt.

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Reply #43 – February 29, 2012, 12:55:05 AM

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See the rings around the cyl? yeah kinda looks like where the rings on the HG would rest. if it was sleeved this would probably be the easiest way to tell other than rolling the motor over and looking at the bottoms of the cyl's they could quite possibly be a lip.

And the markings on the rods that you see.. Ive seen them on every motor Ive ever rebuilt.

Varies by manufacturer. The only Olds engines I found numbered rods in had been rebuilt. The virgin ones had no rod markings. Then AMC's I've dealt with were the same. However, every 2.3 Ford I've tore down has had marked rods, rebuilt or virgin, didn't matter.

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Reply #44 – February 29, 2012, 02:20:29 AM

Quote from: dragon574444;381299

The moonroof is absolutely my favorite part on the car. Hit the switch one way, and it pops up like a sunroof. Flip it the other way, and it slides into the roof like a moon roof.

The moonroof on my Sport is the only thing I truly hate about it. Up till I seen it sitting on the lot, I'd never even seen an '88 Sport in person (that I'm aware of).

Engine looks 100% stock and untouched to me, I've got an HO shortblock on my stand out of a '90 GT, I'll have to snap a few pics for comparison for you when I pull the pan this weekend.