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Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #30
You are missing something ;)

That '86 Cougar has the 3.8/C5 drivetrain combo, which just squeaks in at 18MPG. Your '87 with the 3.8/AOD combo gets 19MPG combined and is therefore ineligible. The only 87-88 T-Bird that qualifies is the automatic TC.

I would think any dealer that gave C4C money and then didn't get the rebate because the car didn't qualify would be SOL. It's up to the dealership, not the customer, to make sure the vehicle they take in on trade is eligible.
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #31
this may be the thing that makes thunderbirds and cougars infamously rare.
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1987 Ford Thunderbird Sport (resting)
1993 Mazda Miata 1.6l (daily driver)

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #32
I wouldn't count on it. Most don't qualify.
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #33
i know they might not be eligable..  but im talking as if this program is a trend.  not this one deal will kill the cars we love (older cars) but if they ad more incentive to the sale like the clunkers for cash and other programs might become a giant eating up used cars for raw material to be made into your 2015 taurus.

-Drew
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:america: An American Restoration. :birdsmily:
1987 Ford Thunderbird Sport (resting)
1993 Mazda Miata 1.6l (daily driver)

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #34
There is one small difference between american and european C4C programme. We (in Europe) can get between cca 1500 to 3000 $. Most people get 1500$ and they are happy. The main difference is when you send your car to junkyard you will get only paper with stamp "Ecologically liquidated". Nothing else, no money. But you can buy or get some parts from that car. The money from C4C is just price reduction on the new car. And the limit of the new car's price is about 25 000$. That old car leaves on the junkyard for parts and the car is crushed after tear down. Just metal. In some special occasions you can buy a whole car from junkyard, but you can't to register it again. You can use "papers" from another same car and change VIN number of chasis. VIN number of motor can be erased.

I think it's much more better version that your C4C, where whole car is crushed and you can't buy any part from this car.

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #35
You can buy parts from C4C cars, just not the engine or tranny (and possibly the rear end - the law says "drivetrain")
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #36
Then why did 83-88tbird guy's dealership say he couldn'tbuy parts off of that cougar?
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-2012 Altima 2.5 BASE. 
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Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #37
Because his dealership is populated by misinformed idiots. The CARS.GOV website says that parts can be sold off the car except the drivetrain.

Once again:
http://www.cars.gov/faq#category-14
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #38
Quote from: RunninWild;285495
Then why did 83-88tbird guy's dealership say he couldn'tbuy parts off of that cougar?


As ThunderChicken stated above, the dealer has some mis-informed/un-educated on the subject asses. Hell, those dealers should know more about the C4C laws than anyone !

Also, they are probably paranoid about getting a $ 15,000 penalty.
Alan Mackin--Semi Professional Ford der
83 T-Bird 460
83 T-Bird Heritage 5.0
84 T-Bird 5.0
86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe NHRA Stocker & Super Stocker
87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe
88 Bronco II Drag truck 302
95 Mustang GT auto
2004 F-350 CC Dually V-10

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Reply #39
Quote from: 83-88T-Bird Guy;285556
As ThunderChicken stated above, the dealer has some mis-informed/un-educated on the subject asses. Hell, those dealers should know more about the C4C laws than anyone !

Also, they are probably paranoid about getting a $ 15,000 penalty.


Did you say anything to the dealer about the law, anything can sell except the drivetrain?
-'88 Tbird 3.8
-2012 Altima 2.5 BASE. 
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Future: Budget 5.0 300 HP.

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #40
Quote from: RunninWild;285560
Did you say anything to the dealer about the law, anything can sell except the drivetrain?


I am upset with the attitude I got from them, so I feel it would be a lost cause. Their plan is to crush all of the trade-ins.


I sure as hell am now going to stay away from dealerships so I won't have to see the waste !
Alan Mackin--Semi Professional Ford der
83 T-Bird 460
83 T-Bird Heritage 5.0
84 T-Bird 5.0
86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe NHRA Stocker & Super Stocker
87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe
88 Bronco II Drag truck 302
95 Mustang GT auto
2004 F-350 CC Dually V-10

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #41
Understandable. That's pretty dumb though, they can make money off of the parts they sell and they're refusing to do it?

Morons.
-'88 Tbird 3.8
-2012 Altima 2.5 BASE. 
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Future: Budget 5.0 300 HP.

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #42
I don't know of any dealers that part out used cars or crush them. They sell them to a salvage yard.

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #43
i killed an 85 5.0 thunderbird today, very ugly tan wit tan interior. Managed to steal the headlight bezels, grille and cowl piece for the front windshield off it tho. :)

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #44
Quote from: jpc647;284999
On the other hand you never know what it needed for work. I agree it is sad, luckily for me there wont be any 87-88 birds or cougars crushed, they don't qualify anymore. :)

why don't they qualify?
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