Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

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Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #30 – August 05, 2009, 01:19:15 PM

You are missing something

That '86 Cougar has the 3.8/C5 drivetrain combo, which just squeaks in at 18MPG. Your '87 with the 3.8/AOD combo gets 19MPG combined and is therefore ineligible. The only 87-88 T-Bird that qualifies is the automatic TC.

I would think any dealer that gave C4C money and then didn't get the rebate because the car didn't qualify would be SOL. It's up to the dealership, not the customer, to make sure the vehicle they take in on trade is eligible.

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #31 – August 05, 2009, 01:25:07 PM

this may be the thing that makes thunderbirds and cougars infamously rare.

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #32 – August 05, 2009, 01:38:22 PM

I wouldn't count on it. Most don't qualify.

Cash for clunkers...FINAL NUMBERS 9-26-09

Reply #33 – August 05, 2009, 01:50:23 PM

i know they might not be eligable.. but im talking as if this program is a trend. not this one deal will kill the cars we love (older cars) but if they ad more incentive to the sale like the clunkers for cash and other programs might become a giant eating up used cars for raw material to be made into your 2015 taurus.

-Drew

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Reply #34 – August 05, 2009, 02:06:36 PM

There is one small difference between american and european C4C programme. We (in Europe) can get between cca 1500 to 3000 $. Most people get 1500$ and they are happy. The main difference is when you send your car to junkyard you will get only paper with stamp "Ecologically liquidated". Nothing else, no money. But you can buy or get some parts from that car. The money from C4C is just price reduction on the new car. And the limit of the new car's price is about 25 000$. That old car leaves on the junkyard for parts and the car is crushed after tear down. Just metal. In some special occasions you can buy a whole car from junkyard, but you can't to register it again. You can use "papers" from another same car and change VIN number of chasis. VIN number of motor can be erased.

I think it's much more better version that your C4C, where whole car is crushed and you can't buy any part from this car.

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Reply #35 – August 05, 2009, 03:52:04 PM

You can buy parts from C4C cars, just not the engine or tranny (and possibly the rear end - the law says "drivetrain")

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Reply #36 – August 05, 2009, 11:32:38 PM

Then why did 83-88tbird guy's dealership say he couldn'tbuy parts off of that cougar?

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Reply #37 – August 06, 2009, 07:18:29 AM

Because his dealership is populated by misinformed idiots. The CARS.GOV website says that parts can be sold off the car except the drivetrain.

Once again:
http://www.cars.gov/faq#category-14

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Reply #38 – August 06, 2009, 12:31:09 PM

Quote from: RunninWild;285495

Then why did 83-88tbird guy's dealership say he couldn'tbuy parts off of that cougar?

As ThunderChicken stated above, the dealer has some mis-informed/un-educated on the subject asses. Hell, those dealers should know more about the C4C laws than anyone !

Also, they are probably paranoid about getting a $ 15,000 penalty.

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Reply #39 – August 06, 2009, 12:47:57 PM

Quote from: 83-88T-Bird Guy;285556

As ThunderChicken stated above, the dealer has some mis-informed/un-educated on the subject asses. Hell, those dealers should know more about the C4C laws than anyone !

Also, they are probably paranoid about getting a $ 15,000 penalty.

Did you say anything to the dealer about the law, anything can sell except the drivetrain?

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Reply #40 – August 06, 2009, 01:27:09 PM

Quote from: RunninWild;285560

Did you say anything to the dealer about the law, anything can sell except the drivetrain?

I am upset with the attitude I got from them, so I feel it would be a lost cause. Their plan is to crush all of the trade-ins.

I sure as hell am now going to stay away from dealerships so I won't have to see the waste !

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Reply #41 – August 06, 2009, 04:05:07 PM

Understandable. That's pretty dumb though, they can make money off of the parts they sell and they're refusing to do it?

Morons.

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Reply #42 – August 06, 2009, 04:48:00 PM

I don't know of any dealers that part out used cars or crush them. They sell them to a salvage yard.

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Reply #43 – August 06, 2009, 09:59:17 PM

i killed an 85 5.0 thunderbird today, very ugly tan wit tan interior. Managed to steal the headlight bezels, grille and cowl piece for the front windshield off it tho. :)

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Reply #44 – August 07, 2009, 10:46:36 AM

Quote from: jpc647;284999

On the other hand you never know what it needed for work. I agree it is sad, luckily for me there wont be any 87-88 birds or cougars crushed, they don't qualify anymore. :)

why don't they qualify?