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Reply #45
Quote from: daboss351;238136
actually over 10 years old u dont need a title as long as you have registered the car cause that proves u own it

OMG, Daboss you started this thread with an "OK go ahead you all told me so" message and I was thinking, not going to happen, it's an expensive lesson but you learned it, but now your talking the same  you did when you bought this first mark.

GET A  TITLE OR NO DEAL!! :beatyoass: haven't you learned anything?

Next ignore all these suggestions of Swapping Vin #'s.. unless you want to learn what jail is, this has been covered enough by others in this thread. That's just crazy!

Now to share further experience of a situation I went through that's similar.. it's not as easy as just swapping your parts to another car with a "GOOD TITLE" once done you have a titled car, but you will also be left with an UN-titled Hulk, that NO wrecking/s yard will touch! Years ago I had a AMC Javelen I needed to get rid of and no title, Called a wrecker and they came to pick it up (FREE just get it gone) and no deal, they wouldent even hook up. So I loaded it on a flat bed, took it straight to a s yard, they threw me off the lot "NO WAY, Not without a clear title" To get rid of the thing I had to take a cutting torch, quarter it and then take it down in Quarters, they wouldent even allow me to bring two of the quarters down in the same trip, one quarter at a time, and at least a few days between, WHAT A PAIN IN THE BUTT!

What I suggest for a solution is to do the proper thing and exaust all resources to find the regestered owner and get a bill of sale.
If that fails then the Bearmax's offer of the lein would be your next best option.

However BOTH of these have a risk involved... What if the regestered owner is as dishonest as some of the suggestions you have gotten here and desides "F-That, it's still my car? Good just leave it and move along little boy or I'll call the cops on you if you try to steal it"
Or with the Lein he desides to pay it and get HIS car back.

Wish ya luck Mason, it's a tough way to learn a lesson, but a good way to learn it WELL. Doing the right thing is ALWAYS the best answer.
:birdsmily:   Objects In Mirror Appear to be Loosing  :birdsmily:

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Reply #46
I really just say you call up the local authorities and ask them what to do. The dmv is just a way to waste alot of time and money for no reason.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #47
I think he's learning, Now he gotta do what needs to be done.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #48
no I have tralked to everyone enough times
If the kid I bought it from registered it in RI I WOULD NEED NOTHING but a copy of his reg to prove I own it
thats IT
NEVER said I will EVER buy a car without a title again though.
Im excited because I get more mods for the car
and this ones going in a demo derby with all the junk stock parts form the other ahhaha
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

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Reply #49
Look - all this talk about titles is nice, but it ignores one thing - LAWS VARY FROM STATE TO STATE!!!

This is why I suggested registering it in NH, then transferring it back because you DON'T NEED A TITLE in NH if the CAR IS OVER 10 YEARS OLD. In NH, it's understood that possession is 9/10 of ownership. IF you have a bill of sale, and that car isn't required to have a title, then you can register the car. Period. You may have to have a state trooper inspect the car to verify that it is roadworthy & you may not be able to get it inspected, but they'll take your money and give you a plate. And insurance is not required to register a car here, but many towns have ordinances against keeping non-registered junk in your yard, so you'll often see plates on old rusting parts car junk boxes.
11.96 @ 118 MPH old 306 KB; 428W coming soon.

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Reply #50
yea thanks everyone for trying to help me! you have all been a great help
but I think the safest bet is to just strip it and buy the other one and make one nice car.
Chalk it up as a lesson learned, and its been a learning experience with everything. Im a better mechanic as a result of this car so its not a bad thing.
its either gonna be striped and go, or be made to move and used in a demo derby hahaha
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

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Reply #51
Strip it down to nothing and build another one.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #52
Quote from: Cougar5.0;238362
Look - all this talk about titles is nice, but it ignores one thing - LAWS VARY FROM STATE TO STATE!!!

This is why I suggested registering it in NH, then transferring it back because you DON'T NEED A TITLE in NH if the CAR IS OVER 10 YEARS OLD. In NH, it's understood that possession is 9/10 of ownership. IF you have a bill of sale, and that car isn't required to have a title, then you can register the car. Period. You may have to have a state trooper inspect the car to verify that it is roadworthy & you may not be able to get it inspected, but they'll take your money and give you a plate. And insurance is not required to register a car here, but many towns have ordinances against keeping non-registered junk in your yard, so you'll often see plates on old rusting parts car junk boxes.


So I can grab this old 67 mustang down the road from me with that HUGE gas guzzling 427 in it, get it to NH and get an apartment there I could transfer the car into my name and it would be mine. That TOTALLY Rocks!! Then I drive it back here to Washington and got a a Mustang fastback...WAY cool!

I only need a registration here in Washington to renew the tags ("get plates") for a car also.. But I need a title to make it MINE. It is also required by law to transfer the title over to the OWNER in like 30 or 60 days or so.
:birdsmily:   Objects In Mirror Appear to be Loosing  :birdsmily:

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Reply #53
Quote from: vinnietbird;238402
Strip it down to nothing and build another one.


thats the plan
he told me to give him a few weeks to find another car, and he wants about 700 for it because of all the extra parts
fine with me!
full set of control arms to box and put all the poly bushings into, aluminum radiator, and all my mods.
Will be one niceeeeeee mark
just got to start over on the body work but thats not a big deal
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

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Reply #54
What you guys think, pull my motor and trans, freshen it up, add my gt40 intake, converter, and shift kit and call it good or should I go a little further into it as far as H/C/I
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

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Reply #55
if your gonna start over, find one with less bodywork.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #56
im guessing you have the tools, equipment, and money for all of this with no job?
1979 Ford Fairmont
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5.0L/4R70W/8.8"/5-lug/3" Exhuast


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Reply #57
what do I need? I got a cherry picker, engine stand, welder, very large assortment of wrenches socket sets, ratchets.
And ive been working. I am a mechanic out of my driveway. Just did brakes, shocks, sway bar mounts and endlinks, as well as a oil change on a jeep grand cherroke yesterday made 120. I have been doing a bunch of friends cars and there family's cars, as well as my family's cars, I charge 18 a hour for easy stuff, 20 for hard stuff.
I got a brake job scheduled for tuesday on my buddy's GMC 1500 seirra if the weather permits.
Plus I worked with my grandfather and installed a pellet stove yesterday morning made 50 and a 10 dollar tip.
I also do custom truck sidepipes for 100 bucks, they buy the supply's, and install lers for 50.

Word of mouth works wonders, and now that I charge a flat rate I got everyone asking for work done
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

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Reply #58
the exhaust I did for my buddys GMC
transitions from 1 7/16 stock pipe to 2 1/2 pipe into a 2 1/2 duel in and out cherry bomb elite, with 45 degree bends out the side with 3 1/2 inch slash cut tips. Sits flush with the bottom of the bed side and sounds AMAZING, got a nice burble at idle, rumbles at highway speeds, and ROARS when you stomp on it. I welded it ALL solid into the truck with custom rubber mounts, and no leaks.
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

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Reply #59
Quote from: Jim_Miller;238484
So I can grab this old 67 mustang down the road from me with that HUGE gas guzzling 427 in it, get it to NH and get an apartment there I could transfer the car into my name and it would be mine. That TOTALLY Rocks!! Then I drive it back here to Washington and got a a Mustang fastback...WAY cool!

I only need a registration here in Washington to renew the tags ("get plates") for a car also.. But I need a title to make it MINE. It is also required by law to transfer the title over to the OWNER in like 30 or 60 days or so.


Sure. If you can prove the car is yours, you can get it titled in NH by submitting the following information on the official form:

Quote

Each applicant shall furnish the following on form TDMV 23:

(1)  Owner's name, mailing address and date of birth;

(2)  Owner's legal address, if different from mailing address;

(3)  Date of purchase;

(4)  Current odometer mileage reading;

(5)  Vehicle identification number;

(6)  Lienholder's name and address, if applicable;

(7)  Date of lien, if applicable;

(8)  Indication whether the vehicle is powered by:

a.  Gas;
b.  Diesel;
c.  Electric; or
d.  Propane;

(9)  Vehicle's year, make, model, color and body style;

(10)  Gross vehicle weight, if known;

(11)  Number of cylinders and axles;

(12)  Previous title number of the vehicle and state of issuance, if applicable;[/b]

(13)  Dealer number, if applicable;

(14)  Seller's name and address;

(15)  Owner's signature and date signed;

(16)  Dealer's signature, if applicable;

(17)  Authorized agent's signature, if owner is a corporation, partnership or association; and

(18)  Signature of notary public or justice of the peace.


If you don't have a previous title, you have to have the VIN number verified in the following fashion:
Quote
Verification of Vehicle Identification Number, Form TDMV 19A.

          (a)  A verification of vehicle identification number, form TDMV 19A, shall be completed when there is no previous New Hampshire or out-of-state title furnished to the bureau.

          (b)  Form TDMV 19A shall be completed by a licensed New Hampshire dealer, other than a bonded dealer, an authorized New Hampshire inspection station or any New Hampshire law enforcement officer, after a physical examination of the vehicle.

          (c)  A person described in (b) above shall furnish the following on form TDMV 19A:

(1)  Owner's name and address;

(2)  Vehicle's year, make, model and body style;

(3)  Owner's registration number, if applicable;

(4)  Vehicle identification number;

(5)  Indication, if applicable, whether the vehicle identification number appears to be:

a.  Altered;
b.  Changed; or
c.  Missing;

(6)  Town or city where the vehicle was physically examined;

(7)  Certification by the person authorized to perform the inspection and date signed;

and

(8)  Name and address of agency or company of person authorized to perform the inspection.


Now, since you stole the vehicle you'll be doing a dime at the local pen for grand theft auto, but if you did own the vehicle (i.e., there is no other person claiming to own the vehicle with that VIN#), you could get the car registered and titled in NH without actually providing a record of previous title in NH or any other state. You do have to have the balls to go to a state trooper and claim it's your car. :rollin:
11.96 @ 118 MPH old 306 KB; 428W coming soon.