Well this is the end.... Reply #15 – September 29, 2008, 05:56:01 PM Two WordsMechanics Lein. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #16 – September 29, 2008, 07:38:30 PM whats that?Got a buddy that is willing to give me the title to his old mark he crushed and a bill of sale if he can find itside step laws if i can and have to Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #17 – September 29, 2008, 07:45:44 PM Quote from: daboss351;237707whats that?side step laws if i can and have tousually i woudlnt advise this.. but its your fav car so i see no wrong with it. just dont get in the habbit of it. :burnout: Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #18 – September 29, 2008, 08:00:20 PM Quote from: daboss351;237707whats that?Got a buddy that is willing to give me the title to his old mark he crushed and a bill of sale if he can find itside step laws if i can and have toThat might work if you have the Vin tag to the crushed mark also. If not you are asking for it. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #19 – September 29, 2008, 08:04:14 PM Quote from: daboss351;237707whats that?Got a buddy that is willing to give me the title to his old mark he crushed and a bill of sale if he can find itside step laws if i can and have toProblems with this since the car is gone and from what I understand the VIN plate too are, If you where to get pulled over and your insurance matches your car and your plates are registered to another VIN they will think stolen tags, or if your insurance is registered to the new VIN and tags are too but your car has the real VIN stolen car.Just worse case situations you might want to think about. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #20 – September 29, 2008, 08:36:10 PM The VIN HAS to match.I got pulled over for speeding a couple of months ago and the firt thing they checked was insurance numbers to the car.This CAN be fixed. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #21 – September 29, 2008, 08:50:35 PM Quote from: daboss351;237669ive been trying to do just thatYou DO realize he was joking and that it is a [COLOR="Red"]felony[/COLOR] to do that, right?Lookup VIN tampering. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #22 – September 29, 2008, 08:59:59 PM i know you can do a title search up here in ma but a local P.O. has to verrify the car in person and sign some paperwork. i had to do this one time buying a turbo coupe from nh with no title. after that ma. will issue a new title for the car. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #23 – September 29, 2008, 09:06:28 PM i told u a long time ago i can do a towing and storage lein on it ill get a fl title in my companies name and mail it to you ...it would take about a month and a half but i gaurintee u a title .the leagle way ...now i normaly charge $250 for this but we can talk about that bro ........let me know Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #24 – September 29, 2008, 09:33:45 PM thats probably not a bad way to go..... Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #25 – September 29, 2008, 09:49:01 PM yea thats deffinatly the way to go. vin tampering is serious buisness even if its for a legitish reason. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #26 – September 29, 2008, 09:51:20 PM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;237668Buy a $200 Mark with a good VIN and get a bill of sale, then register that one. Slap the VIN on your "good" Mark and you're good to go. You could even part out the $200 Mark and make more than your money back :hick:PS: I'm (mostly) kidding...I did that with my 85 Cougar, 8 years ago, with my Dad`s crushed 84 Cougar. Never got a police report from the accident so that was no problem here. I pay registration every year and even got a new set of plates. Been pulled over 2 times, no problem. It`s a felony here, too, but never had a single problem. I guess this is because it was a old non-appealing car. US laws would be more strict in this matter, i think. Don`t give up. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #27 – September 29, 2008, 11:05:03 PM Quote from: MexCougar;237744I did that with my 85 Cougar, 8 years ago, with my Dad`s crushed 84 Cougar. Never got a police report from the accident so that was no problem here. I pay registration every year and even got a new set of plates. Been pulled over 2 times, no problem. It`s a felony here, too, but never had a single problem. I guess this is because it was a old non-appealing car. US laws would be more strict in this matter, i think. Don`t give up.Paul's right, I was joking. I actually had to talk my brother out of doing just that with his work van (he lost the bill of sale from the dealership he bought it from and they subsequently went tits up - yes, he was driving illegally on a temporary permit for two years). He wanted to use the VIN from the E-350 he gave me (the one I got the 351 from) to avoid the hassle of trying to get a permit, and also to prevent paying taxes. I actually lied to him and told him the VIN plate had melted when my sping buddy (the one mentioned in the sping thread) burned it before crushing it.Swapping VIN's could actually be a very big problem - say you get into a car accident, and the car is written off. Worse, you wrote off somebody else's car (regardless of fault). It's towed to a junk yard. The junk yard checks the VIN (as they do with all vehicles) and informs the insurance company/police that the VIN doesn't match, as they're required to do.The insurance company's first words would be "Well, that car wasn't insured by us - we insured THIS car (being the one that you had registered)". BAM, you're on the hook for the car. You're also on the hook for the other car that was involved in the accident (regardless of fault - in most jurisdictions driving without insurance automatically places you at fault). If there were any injuries you're on the hook for those as well. Insurance will cover NONE of it because as far as they're concerned you're driving an uninsured car. It could ruin you for life. Then the police step in. You're nailed for VIN tampering (a felony) as well as driving without insurance, displaying tags that don't belong to the vehicle, etc.It would be far better to do Bearmax's offer, or even buy a junk Mark and transfer your parts over to it (instead of transfering its VIN onto your car). If you have any friends that are licensed mechanics, or if you know anyone who has a legal shop they could do the same thing Bearmax is offering, but without having to do a Florida title. The person would have to claim that the car was abandoned at their place of business (usually because the owner will not or can not pay a repair bill). I believe it takes 30 days, then the title would be transfered to the shop so they could legally dispose of the car.That being said, there is probably a legal-ish way to transfer the VIN. You could, in theory, buy a junk car and transfer a few parts onto your current one, including the section of firewall that contains the VIN, then register it as a "Reconstructed vehicle". Technically you're building one car out of two, which is perfectly legal (at least it is around here). You would have to find out from your local DMV exactly how much of the car has to be from the legal-VIN car (it may not even be specified, in which case you should be OK with just a few parts). It's a grey area, though, so you'll have to check local "reconstructed vehicle" regulations. The car would also likely have to go through a thorough "mechanical fitness" inspection to make sure the reconstructed vehicle is safe. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #28 – September 29, 2008, 11:10:38 PM I didn't mean for him to swap VIN's either.Bad mojo. Quote Selected
Well this is the end.... Reply #29 – September 30, 2008, 12:39:33 AM Quote from: daboss351;237672hummmm explain, im up to try anythingWell, I've been waiting to see if you got a good solution before replying. I was thinking that since NH has fairly lax laws, you could write me a bill of sale and I could register the car here in NH. It costs like $60 or something like that & insurance is not required here to register a car, just a bill of sale. Older cars are not required to be titled, but there may be an issue if I register the car without a signed over title - I'd have to check into that. I couldn't let you drive with the NH plates though. Then I could "sell" it back and it would have a record of being registered in another state. It's sure not illegal like messing with the VIN - don't do that! I'm not sure if it would pass muster in RI, but it's an idea. Quote Selected
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