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Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #780 –
The one I contacted you about a long time ago :P

-kingcars (posting on dad's account oops)

Mr. Bill

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #781 –
Just got back from the machine shop today; picked up my rotating assembly (omg it was done on time! I was actually the late one by a couple of days haha). Everything has been balanced. He said that the pistons were WAY out of whack to the point where he actually had to take some material off of them to get all of the weights right. I can also see where he had to do a lot of work on the crank itself.

But anyways, now I just have to order some pushrods, main bearings and rod bearings. Any recommendations on going with either H or P bearings? I know the basic pros and cons of each, I'm just undecided at the moment.

Also, these are the pushrods I'm looking at getting.  From my research, 6.25" is the stock length.  I also measured some stockers I had lying around.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-21406250/

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #782 –
Hmmmm...had a nice little present come in the mail yesterday...



Definitely the hardest to find piece on my engine so far haha.

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #783 –
Nice.If you use it on an Explorer intake,add the two extra screw heads to the extra holes on the plate to give it the right look. Nice piece ,though,and they are getting harder to find. If I may ask,how much $$ ?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #784 –
He told me to name a price, so I went by what Mustangs Unlimited listed it for and sent him $25, since it was still brand new in the packaging.  And yeah, I'm aware of the 2 missing screw holes in the Explorer intake.  Can you just drill/tap them in?

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Reply #785 –
Yes,you can drill and tap them,or,just cut the heads off of two extra screws and a use a little adhesive of your choice to fill the empty spots.Great deal on the plate.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #786 –
Definitely poured babbitt bearings.
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

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Reply #787 –
Quote from: ZondaC12;329244
Definitely poured babbitt bearings.


So he's putting in a tractor engine?
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #788 –
I put Federal Mogul - Sealed Power brand Tri-Metal main bearings in my engine, when I rebuilt it.  Engine has been great so far with good oil pressure.
1988 Thunderbird
306 HO w/ A9P processor
AOD w/ Transgo Reprogrammer
Full Digital Dash w/ twin Cyberdyne A-pillar gauges 
245/50/16 Tires on Snowflakes
Engine swap - CA smog compliant

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #789 –
Quote from: kingcars;328989

Also, these are the pushrods I'm looking at getting.  From my research, 6.25" is the stock length.  I also measured some stockers I had lying around.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-21406250/


I haven't read through all the pages of this build (it looks like you're on build #2?).  Are you aware of the need to check for the proper push rod length prior to purchasing a set?  A very common error in engine assembly is pluging in a "stock" push rod in a non-stock engine. 

Items which influence push rod length are:
    a decked or squared block,
    resurfaced heads,
    heads converted from pedestal to stud mount,
    aftermarket heads,
    aftermarket cam base circle


If you have a completely stock engine, stock push rods are fine.  If the engine is modified, the proceedure to check the length will ensure you have proper valve train geometry.

It's an extra step to make sure you get the result you're expecting.

Some the the possible problems which can result from the wrong push rod length are: 
    broken studs or pedestal bolts,
    low compression,
    low vacuum,
    poor drivability,
    lack of power
.

Instruction are readily available on the net if you do a search.  It's pretty a pretty simple proceedure.

Good luck.

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Reply #790 –
Quote from: thunderjet302;329264
So he's putting in a tractor engine?

 
NAHHH man it's old school. The secret is being revealed now: it's not a GT40 5.0. It's a straight-eight out of a 1936 Packard 180. Nice thick babbitt so if you rev it above 3 grand it'll pound it to moosh in like 10,000 miles!!! :hick:
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #791 –
We had none of those problems before, and yes it is basically a stock / factory build. Stock cam, SVO ford heads stock 1.7 Ford rockers.
We also have check the amount of rotation at torque spec and we do have rocker shims. If the block or heads get resurfaced we will check pushrod length.

Thanks for the info!!!

Mr. Bill

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Reply #792 –
Quote from: ZondaC12;329305
NAHHH man it's old school. The secret is being revealed now: it's not a GT40 5.0. It's a straight-eight out of a 1936 Packard 180. Nice thick babbitt so if you rev it above 3 grand it'll pound it to moosh in like 10,000 miles!!! :hick:


What no Dynaflash 8? ;)
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

Reply #793 –
Quote from: 86T-bird;329279
I haven't read through all the pages of this build (it looks like you're on build #2?).  Are you aware of the need to check for the proper push rod length prior to purchasing a set?  A very common error in engine assembly is pluging in a "stock" push rod in a non-stock engine. 


The first build of the 306 used stock push rods without problem.  Nothing is changing as far as the valve train is concerned.  :)  And I measured a stock one just to be sure.  6.25"

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Reply #794 –
Quote from: thunderjet302;329356
What no Dynaflash 8? ;)

Naaaaaaah that's the PRICEY one there. Now THEM THERE BUICKS were done right, with the thin stuff. Rev them things to the moon? Nooooo problem. Brraaaap brraaaaaaaap :shakeass:
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane