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Reply #30
Purolator PCV = Junk

No need to tear the intake off to clean the IAC...

(PS- I emailed you pics of that wheel)
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #31
Varying high idle usually caused by bad or incorrect setting of the TPS...

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Reply #32
Got them, PM'd you back.
I'm taking it off to clean the intake itself, change alot of the vacuum hoses, and also pull the injectors out and either change or clean them. There is a junkyard nearby with a TON of mustang 4 bangers. I don't know if they had any different ones but it will keep me busy for a bit. 

Got the turbotbird instructions for adjusting the tps. That site is great! everything and anything is on there for these things. You gotta love the internet!
brian

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Reply #33
The NA cars will not have the proper injectors.  There were only two types used stock on the 2.3T's, the 30# green-tops and the 35# brown-tops.  Anything 83-early 85 used the green and 85.5 and later used the brown.  With your ECU, the only ones that will work will be the green.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #34
Alrighty, I am now balls deep in this car. I pulled the distributor and I am replacing the ignition module, and the pick-up. Also I am pulling the injectors and everything that goes with it.
 
  Soooo, I pulled the egr valve off and both holes are plugged up with ola. I don't know if I asked this before or not, but do I NEED the EGR valve? Or does it play a role with that turbo? This one is I am sure shot, but a new one is more money than I want to spend. I know I said I wanted good gas mileage, but I am willing to sacrifice here and there. If I need it, I need it, but if not, can I run without it, and what do I need to plug to do so? Besides the manifold run off for it.
thanks
brian

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Reply #35
Well there is only one port on the 2.3T EGR valve.  The other may just look like a port due to the carbon on it.
There is really nothing to gain by taking it off, if you can clean the carbon out of it and the diaphram will hold when vacuum is applied, then leave it on.  While is does nothing to affect performance, it does come into play during cruise and could affect your milage a touch without it.  You "may" pick up some pinging if you remove it as well.  With the earlier ECU you may not notice any difference one way or the other.
If it's fully clogged, it's pretty much disabled at the moment, but way to disable it w/o having to remove/plug the line to the manifold is just to sandwich a thin piece of metal between the intake and the valve.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #36
Well, here is the pics of the injectors and the egr. If I gain nothing from removing it, then I will just leave it on after I clean the hell out of it. The intake is just as bad. Is there anything I need to know about the injectors? Safe way to clean them or just clean em?

:bowdown:  By the way, kudos go out to all that have these engines, so far my big mits are having a HELL of a time getting around the garbage that is on this motor. :punchballs:

  Oh, should I take the head off or just leave it. I don't believe the gasket is leaking or anything but I really don't want to do this again. I think if I do, the motor will come out.

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Reply #37
Quote from: atariman;172752


Got the turbotbird instructions for adjusting the tps.


humm,, and my DIY link down on my sig could have saved you time.


heres my wrtie up..............


tps test  throttle position sensor
1 location-- vertical mounted on pass side of CFI with org/blk/grn wires.
Probe the green wire with positive lead of a meter and ground out
the black lead of your meter.

2 turn ign sw on ,, no start

3 the voltage reading on your meter should be around .5-.9 vdc.

4 operate the throttle linkage very very very slowly and note increase in voltage.  Your increase should be smooth with no jumping and it should top out at around 4.6 vdc. 

notes..
It is best to use an buttstuffog (needle type) meter when doing this step because it will detect flat or open spots on the variable resiseter (tps) better than the digital types.
you can bench test the tps buy hooking up to the green and black  then black to org and measuring resistance and the two readings should match.  The green wire is the center tap of the variable resistor.  The resistance reading will be proportional to what you see in dc volts. 

if you find your low end voltage is at or above one volt,, use a chainsaw file to file out the mounting holes so that you can mount and adjust the tps CCw to achieve the "less than a volt" goal.

when installing the tps,, lay it in place but slightly clockwise,, seat the tps then rotate it ccw to line up the mounting screws.  There is a little pin up in the likage that will put your tps in a bind if you dont do this correctly.  You cant just lay it on and bolt it down any old way.

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Reply #38
Thanks! I am gonna adjust that when I put it all back together.

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Reply #39
Use some seafoam on that carbon it should knock it right out. Either that or carb cleaner.
84 Turbo coupe 2.3T Modded with 88 upper and lower intake, 88 injectors, E6 manifold, T3-4 AR.60 turbo, 31X12X3 FMIC, Homemade MBC , Greddy knock off BPV.
4 eyes see better than 2! 
Da Bird!

FreeBird

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Reply #40
for the love of God! Is it really this hard to get top dead center or am I crazy?!??! I got the car on top dead center after I pulled the dizzy out. The car just won't start. It tries to, but doesn't turn over all the way to run. I am getting spark, and fuel. Everything is hooked up right. all vacuum lines are on and is kosher. I need help! Is there something I am missing? I pulled everything on the intake side off. Cleaned all, and no start. HELP! Also I changed the pick up in the distributor, and the ignition module on the side. All done correctly. didn't take the wires off as I changed them before. I must have missed something.

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Reply #41
Advance the timing a little...sometimes they are a bear to start if the timing is retarded a bit.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #42
alright, i just checked the timing on the cam and it is good. when trying to start however, #1 sparks but not on tdc. switched it 180 and still does not fire on tdc. what did I do?

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Reply #43
#1 isn't supposed to spark at TDC...like I said advance it a bit (like 10* BTDC)...
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #44
Chuck, I am going to come and see you and buy you a beer....if you drink. Or smoke a cig with you.....if you smoke.  So it needed advanced, and now it runs. good actually, good enough for me to see that the exhaust  manifold has a terrible leak in the front. So now I am tearing that off and tomorrow I will replace that gasket. Yay. Chuck, your still da man. I'm serious about the beer and smoke or whatever, big fat T-bone if you want.