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Reply #135 –
3.8??? OK Vinnie, I'm calling the guys in the white coats to have you committed...

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Reply #136 –
No kiddin' lol
'84 Mustang
'98 Explorer 5.0
'03 Focus, dropped a valve seat. yay. freakin' split port engines...
'06 Explorer EB 4.6

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Reply #137 –
O.K Tom, you've convinced me.....I'm staying with the 5.0. I couldn't have done my first H.O conversion years ago without you, and then Kitz twisting my arm and forcing me install the E303 and the Mass Air. Well, not forcing me....more like belittling me into it.....but it worked.  All up hill from there.LOL. Now the Sport is carrying the load listed in the signature below.  I have to admit, the roar of the exhaust when i twist the key is music to my ears. I have been known to start the car on a cool quiet morning....turn it off....then start it again just to listen to that tone. It can't be simulated by 2 or 4 less pistons. The Sport says "I'm here, I'm serious, and I mean business". I do still wonder how much horsepower she's putting down. I have no earthly idea. Hoping for a dyno day here in town this fall. Or at least on a cool morning. I'm really curious about the numbers compared to the E303/E-7 '86 engine with Flat tops and the Explorer intake. That'll be interesting to see.

So, to clear all this up....The 2.3 is the most powerful engine on our forum hands down. No question about it. Tons of horsepower and enough torque to shred pavement, the 3.8 is the smartest way to go, and the 5.0 sucks like a shop vac. I can live with that.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #138 –
And big blocks are for wimps with small testicles...or so I'm told. I'm not lookin' at anyone's ballbag to verify.

Since I'm a po' , I'll just stick to my STOCK 5.0HO, since it's reliable, easy to work on, and if shiznit hits the fan, I can rebuild it easily, or even replace it with another.

I've got a 2.3 engine in a Mustang, yes, it's n/a, but still, I can't even time the goded thing, or else my belt isn't any good. Too cheap to buy a belt that may not solve the issue on a car that I may sell tomorrow.

As for the 3.8 Essucks....I've had 2 of 'em...one was a complete POS, overheated, popped a HG before I could get off the highway to safety and was DOA, never to live again. The other went strong until I decided to move after it had sat for a coupla months during a really dark, bad time in my life. Had a serious rear main leak, and in my prescription pain pill-induced blank mindedness, forgot to check the oil before I drove it back over here. A busted rod, gouged up cam, and resulting fire that ruined my fuel lines killed her off. And nearly me, had it kept burning...

That second 3.8 was the most reliable, strong V6 I'd ever seen or heard of. Many many times I increased the size of the dent in the floorpan under the gas pedal in a vain attempt to coax more speed from the thing...

Thankfully I learned my lesson and I'm still here...but not for lack of trying at the time...

Point is....who gives a shiznit whether it's got 4 holes, 6 or 8 even...build it as YOU want...and if we tease each other about this engine or that..well, at the end of the day, it's simply car guys' odd humor, and nothing personal. No more, and no less.

Sorry, didn't mean to delve into my personal life story there, but shiznit, some folks get too carried away over the size or make of what's under the hood. For that matter...if money was no object, I'd have a PowerStroke under the hood of mine, IF it would even have a chance in hell of fitting in the first place.
'84 Mustang
'98 Explorer 5.0
'03 Focus, dropped a valve seat. yay. freakin' split port engines...
'06 Explorer EB 4.6

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Reply #139 –
My 3.8 was actually a wheel peeler.... had some small balls for some odd reason... I will miss it, but on to a non stock V8...I wonder if I will see a diff when I get it going.
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Reply #140 –
I think you'd see a small difference. The 3.8, in good shape has some decent torque to it. Just not a lot of horsepower. The 5.o has more of both. Not a whole lot, but more. Funny how a few small changes to the 5.0 make all the difference in the world.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #141 –
FACT: the 2.3T has limited boost with the la2. ITS A FRIGGIN FACT!

REALLY??????????? EVEN THESE THREE BELOW??????


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Reply #142 –
Tom what did i say? LA2, you have two LA3's and a LA2 according to that masking tape.

why do you always have to be right all the time?

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Reply #143 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;367322
O.K .....So, to clear all this up....The 2.3 is the most powerful engine on our forum hands down. No question about it. Tons of horsepower and enough torque to shred pavement, the 3.8 is the smartest way to go, and the 5.0 sucks like a shop vac. I can live with that.

 
You crack me up Vinnie ...... LMFAO  So.. since I'm putting in a 4.6 does this mean I'll have twice the power and torque or should I just se it and go with 4 holes?? LOL


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16' Chebby Cruze 1.4L Turbo
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Reply #144 –
depends on what 4.6 your putting in, a legit 4.6 or 2 2.3's welded together? haha

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Reply #145 –
Go 4 hole. A 4.6 is never going to stand up to the power of the mighty 2.3. It has been said that the sheer torque of the 2.3 has twisted cars clean in half, and turned drive shafts into a twisted mass of useless metal.

On another note. All those who feel compelled to argue, whine, cry, give up and go home, cry to momma, leave and never come back, need to see who can pee further than the other guy, has an insecurity issue and needs to prove he has a weenie, or wet the bed, please leave your name in the next reply box, or at least near there if it doesn't hurt your feelings too much.






Note....I had to say "weenie" due to children who may be listening. Thank you.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #146 –
Quote from: 84TBirdTurbo42;367348
depends on what 4.6 your putting in, a legit 4.6 or 2 2.3's welded together? haha

It's a lowly legit 4.6 DOHC. But I did think twice about JB welding 2 or 3 2.3's together....... lol

But I too often wonder why Tom is always right, the only one who knows absolutely everything automotive, the only one with connections to Ford, and yet has never kept his word about shutting up and going "home". Yes You have had useful/good knowledge, but my friend, your not the "know-all-be-all" Sorry.

I have 1 more ?? for you Tom..... When was the last time you tried to walk on water?......that wasn't frozen??


86' T/C 4.6L DOHC
16' Chebby Cruze 1.4L Turbo
17’ Peterbilt 389 600hp 1850ftlb Trq 18spd

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Reply #147 –
Ya, think I'll se it and go back to just 4 holes with 2 turbo's  :mullet:


86' T/C 4.6L DOHC
16' Chebby Cruze 1.4L Turbo
17’ Peterbilt 389 600hp 1850ftlb Trq 18spd

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“Heavy Metal Mistress”
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