Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

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Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

June 24, 2006, 11:33:29 PM

OK, I'm wanting to do something in the way of speakers for the TBird. Nothing fancy, nothing heavy, but I want to clean-up and round-out the sound a bit. I've got a Pioneer head unit at the moment, but will probably get another Alpine like I have in the other two cars eventually.

I was looking at some of the component systems that include some smaller woofers (5-1/4") some tweeters and crossovers. These would mount in the doors and dash on the '83. Would these and some 6x8's in the deck fed off a 4-channel amp be sufficient? What about a small (8-10" free air) sub-woofer instead of the 6x8's? I'd like to have a little bottom end, but I am NOT building a box or any of that shiznit.

Normally I make due with some 6x8 or 6x9's and some 5-1/4" door speakers, or 4" dash speakers and call it a day. Sometimes it sounds good, other times it sounds just ok. This is not my thing really

So anyway.....

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #1 – June 25, 2006, 12:32:18 AM

personally... i like this place http://www.dandbsales.com

but if your looking for good sound.. look in the audio section of a JC whitney.... Visonik is a really good brand good quality

Volfenhag is a good bassy woofer if you get a single woofer and hook it to an amp... say 600 watts continious... that'll fill up your bottom end that you want

clarion makes a good speaker too. nuff said there

its all depending on what ya want man

hope i helped.... if not i just babbled and nobody really cares lol

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #2 – June 25, 2006, 12:53:28 AM

I think I'm going to have to check the "Strongly Disaggree" box on JC Whitney...

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #3 – June 25, 2006, 01:21:41 AM

I like your idea of components in the front with a sub in the back. I run 6.5 coaxials in my car and wish I had components so I could have the tweeter higher up. That way my legs wouldnt block the highs. If you put adequate power to them with a 2 channel amp they will get plenty loud without distortion.
I'd also go with just a sub in the rear without 6x8s. That is what I run in my car, since I don't care for anything but bass coming from the back. One way to think about it is when you go to a concert, do you stand with your back towards with stage? It's the same way with a car, why have all of the music behind you? Are you planning on mounting the sub in the rear deck?

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #4 – June 25, 2006, 01:33:46 AM

I don't know...just trying to figure it out. That was going to be the plan.

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #5 – June 25, 2006, 02:05:15 AM

if you like to build your own stuff and and don't like spending tons of money on high priced junk then check this site out...

http://www.partshagpress.com/

besides did'nt you say that you are going to cat jam this year?

if so then you can sample my system

i have these in my doors and my rear deck

http://www.partshagpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=290-308

http://www.baysidenet.tv/catalog/images/vifa_k10md_19_08.jpg

http://www.partshagpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=275-035

partshagpress don't seem to stock the mids anymore:disappoin

so i had to find a pic somewhere else..

there is a guy selling the mids on ebay but the price is a rip off with shipping..

http://cgi.ebay.com/VIFA-4-Pro-Audio-midrange-driver-8-ohm-speaker-HOT_W0QQitemZ3753096254QQihZ016QQcategoryZ47095QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

anyway... if you have any questions please ask

Nick

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #6 – June 25, 2006, 08:25:34 AM

You running 2 of those woofers in your deck or just one?

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #7 – June 25, 2006, 10:04:24 AM

6" in the front doors,5 1/4 won't fit with out 6" adapter plates.
For the rear deck the holes are 5x7"
Do an ebay search for phoenix gold 5 1/4 xenon components(there called xenon 5.0),they are a very nice kit and sound awesome,they also come with a nice crossover and a 6"/5x7 and 6x9 adapter plate set included in the kit.
I got mine for 58.00+shipping to canada,in total 98.00 shipped.
Would be less shipped to you because your in the states.
You can even get 2 sets,on for the front with the 6" plate and then get a set for the rear and use the 5x7 plate.
I priced these speakers out down here at my local audio shop and they sold for 400.00cdn,great deal for the 140cdn i paid!
As for a sub,a small 8" should do,got a 6 1/2 factory one in my sc and it sounds ok but needs a little more like an 8".
For an amp,look into something 5 channel,that way you can run your 4 speakers and sub in one clean install and not have to run 2 amps.
Alphasonik,audiobahn,alpine,stick with one of thoses,they all make great sounding amps.
I run alphasonik amps in my car,they have an s/n rating of 100db and distortion of 0.02 and sound great,you should be able to pick up there 5 channel for under 200.00 dollars.
In total for an amp and speakers it will probably run you 500.00 and all your equipment will be fairly high end.
Try to stay away from the above mentioned cheapy stuff,you get what you pay for.

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #8 – June 25, 2006, 10:44:01 AM

Chuck I say get rid of the 6X8"s all together. Then take a piece of 3/4" ply wood and cut out a basic square and mount it underside of the rear deck where the 6x8"s went then mount you some 8"s or 10"s in place of the 6x8"s. This will keep it light but still give you some good low end. I've got 10"s in that location in my 84 T/c. only other thing to do to make it better would be to seal the trunk from the interior.

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #9 – June 25, 2006, 11:15:55 AM

Well I wasn't sure what size holes were in the doors. I don't really want to use external speaker grilles...so I want something that would be recessed. They say 6-1/2 and 5-1/4" fit in the doors.

Also, how do they actually dimension speakers?

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #10 – June 25, 2006, 11:30:03 AM

Quote from: dominator

Do an ebay search for phoenix gold 5 1/4 xenon components(there called xenon 5.0),they are a very nice kit and sound awesome,they also come with a nice crossover and a 6"/5x7 and 6x9 adapter plate set included in the kit.

Which kit are you referring to? I checked and am not sure which is the correct one....there were a couple component sets with the crossovers (some just had the inline caps)

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Reply #11 – June 25, 2006, 11:53:01 AM

Chuck they usally mesure stright across the speaker to get its dimensions. On the oval speakers the measure the widest,and longest parts to get the size. Just so you know the factory size in the doors is 6 1/2". If you by the 5 1/4" just take some masonite and make your own adapter. bolt the speaker to the adapter then bolt the whole thing to the door. As for the ones with caps not the crossovers the caps block out low end. The crossovers should have coils in them to block the high end from the larger speakers and caps to block the low end from the tweeters and most likely to block really low bass from the woofers in the setup.

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #12 – June 25, 2006, 11:56:44 AM

Right, I understand what the caps do. Just a cheapy way of limiting the frequencies the speakers see.

I may have to go with a small enclosure for the rear speaker(s). The trunk is going to be "sealed" from the cabin, but "air tight" is not the plan.

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #13 – June 25, 2006, 12:21:03 PM

Quote from: Chuck W

You running 2 of those woofers in your deck or just one?

i run woofer, one mid,and tweeter for each channel... of 5+1 that i have..
right front,left front ,right rear, left rear the olny place i have diffrent woofers is in the center.."which is the dash speakers" since i did'nt want to hack up my dash.. and this is what i used..

http://www.partshagpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=296-145

and for subs i run 4,8 inch orions...

hance the 5+1.. i'm running Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1

left and right,front and rear channels are running 85 watts rms center is 100 watts rms and the subs is running 450watts rms

Not much of an audiophile, but have a couple questions..

Reply #14 – June 25, 2006, 01:22:33 PM

The trunk doesn't have tobe air tight. The closer it is to air tight the better it should be. Besides to seal it isn't that hard. In the large gaped side areas use expand foam. Then I used fibereglass resin with the hairs in it to seal the little holes in the rear deck I did use masking tape to block the holes on the bottom side. This worked great. I do have 2 12" mounted right behind the seat. So you clould seal that whole with the masonite and silicone. Then you don't have the box taking up you trunk space, But you still have really good sound. But do as you wish. I had a friend that had 2 10"s mounted in the rear deck of his Dodge Aspen and didn't seal the trunk from the rest of the car and it still sounded good. Just not as loud.