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trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

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I picked up this transmission today and i am curious if anyone can double check that this tag matchin the description of 84 mustang 4 speed 2.3 it would be a german 10 bolt i beleive. the tag is 78ET BA
FOG 9E 23F
also.... is it possible to get the gear ratios for this transmission by this tag? like first 2nd and 3rd?

thanks yall
Eric

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #1
It SHOULD be an SROD.  If you click on the picture in this link below it will give you a parts listing:http://www.alldriveline.com/transmissions/frugacp.html
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trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #2
it does look just like that that doesnt seem to match years but... i think it works... still tryin to figure  ratios

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #3
There are 2 different types of SROD.  One is german built, the other American.  I'm not sure which is which but, one has a cast iron case, the other has an aluminum case.

The ratios are as follows:
Cast iron case:  1st: 3.29    2nd: 1.84    3rd: 1.0    4th: 0.81
Aluminum:        1st: 3.07    2nd: 1.72    3rd: 1.0    4th: 0.70

From what I understand the aluminum case was meant for less heavy passenger cars and the iron case was for trucks.  That would explain the lower gear ratios of the iron case units.
1984 was the model year when the SROD was phased out in favor of the T-5.  Early 84 models had the SROD, later ones had the T-5
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trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #4
Quote from: Paul Flockhart
1984 was the model year when the SROD was phased out in favor of the T-5.  Early 84 models had the SROD, later ones had the T-5


Sorry Paul, you're a year late... T'was '83... Know a guy who ordered a '83 Stang new. He waited till they were taking orders for the T5 before he ordered...

This is also likely why the '83 Turbo Coupe was a mid-year entry, they were ALL 5 speed...

The (maybe, maybe something else)SROD 4 speed trans was in the NA 2.3 Stangs through '86, then they got the T5 for '87..

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #5
Could this be the same trans that is in my 78 e-150? Cause I know the trannies are hard to find. All the mustang guys pull them.
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trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #6
well my 86 2.3 mustang came equipped with 4 speed and 87 was 5 speed or auto..... nada else.... but some of the early mid 80's had optional 5 speed or 4 speed and automatic

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #7
Quote from: TurboCoupe50
Sorry Paul, you're a year late... T'was '83

Tom's correct.  The first year of the T-5.  The SROD was used in 83 and 84 as well (seen a couple in some 84's)  Never seen one in an 85 or newer passenger car though.
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trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #8
well paul i wish i had an interior picture of my 86 mustang for ya then.... because it was an 86 2.3 lx stang with 4 speed ( non svo) 3.08 rear gears

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #9
Quote from: the_intimidator03
well paul i wish i had an interior picture of my 86 mustang for ya then.... because it was an 86 2.3 lx stang with 4 speed ( non svo) 3.08 rear gears


Basically Paul and I are talking 5.0 and turbo 2.3 applications...

I've already stated the NA 2.3 Stangs used a 4 speed tranny through '86, had one as well...

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #10
oh ic........ :-p i knew that

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #11
OK....i came up with these ratio numbers for the transmission.... i did this by turning the output shaft 10 times and counting how many times the input shaft turned (g/f counted)  so these numbers are rough...... these ar ethe gears in turns then the ratio
R 40 3/4 turns 4.08
1st 40 3/4 turns 4.08
2nd 21 1/2 turns 2.15
3rd 14 1/4 turns 1.43
4th 10 turns 1.00

SO.... am i figuring these out the right way? by turnin output shaft 10 times and counting input shaft turns for all those gears?
Btw this has a cast iron center.... aluminum bellhousing and tail shaft :-|

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #12
close enough....

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #13
i dont think ive EVER seen a passenger car with a 4.08 or near 1st!... and it being 83 mustang SHOULD be SROD which means the 4th should be overdrive :)) but its 1:1... well i shouldnt bitch.... ill be runnin 3.73's lol

trans tag info needed 84 4 speed(mustang)

Reply #14
The 2.3 T5s have a 3.97 1st. Also I believe early T5s used in the SVO Stangs had a 4.03.