intercooler for KB blower Reply #30 – November 17, 2005, 02:43:32 AM Quote from: Bird351Why lock it, Brian? Manson has a valid question.. and aside from the other shiznit, which I addressed by putting the one guy on ignore and laughing at the other guy who repped me, it's a topic we can pursue without too much .EDIT: More silliness..EDIT #2: You do NOT have my permission to pass along my ICQ # (if you have it) to people who are ignored on this forum, who wish to continue arguments after they've been dealt with. I consider that private information.Why are you messing up this mans thread? With this foolishness between you and someone else?Take it to p/m's keep the topic on track. :locked: Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #31 – November 17, 2005, 06:48:34 AM Anyway, the Kenne Bell setup and others like it (roots and twin screws blowers) are not designed for peak power. They are designed to start making boost very early in the RPM range.Here's some good info on that: http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=76You can crank up the boost on anything with a pulley change, though.....As far as an intercooler you may not have to do all of the fab work. You could always do some shopping for an 03/04 Mustang Cobra intercooler and figure out how to mount it. Those intercoolers are up for sale all the time cause guys go bigger with their setups. Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #32 – November 17, 2005, 08:52:11 AM Take the fight to PM guys. I'm not gonna lock this thread because it actually does contain some useful information, but if the foolishness continues it's gonna have to go Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #33 – November 17, 2005, 09:49:01 PM QuoteYou could always do some shopping for an 03/04 Mustang Cobra intercooler and figure out how to mount it. eek...id think there are too many differances. i havnt looked directly at one but the cooler for the 4.6 cobra replaces a lower intake altogether "i think". the eaton bolts to that. the 5.0 KB bolts on like an upper intake. im sure there are way too many differanced between the windsor 5.0 and the mod 4.6. i couldnt see why you couldnt take a block of aluminum, bore holes through it where the gt40 lowers holes are, port match the top and bottom of the holes for the KB and the gt40 lower and then cut the bar in half horizontily. then mill out a water passage around the holes somehow, either in the passenger side, around the back and out the driverside front, or possibly flow right through it somehow and then mirror the milling in the other half. maybe cut cooling fins on the sides. a few fittings and some sort of gasket gor the halves, some hardware and you could have yourself a prototype right there....or a trainwreck...wich ever....lol wish i could discribe it better but i suck... Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #34 – November 18, 2005, 12:14:40 AM Quotecooler for the 4.6 cobra replaces a lower intake altogether Nope the intercooler is mounted up front in stock 03/04 Cobra applications. Sounds like your referring to the intercaooler Kenne Bell makes for the superchargers THEY make for the 4.6. I meant the stock piece for Ford's eaton supercharger. Something like this...... http://www.southfloridapulleyhq.com/SFPH/cobra/ec_iche.htmThe idea you describe reminds me of the EGR spacer on a 5.0 Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #35 – November 18, 2005, 01:17:04 AM no no....i understand the actual cooler itself...the heat exchanger. what im talking about is the "lower intake" that the blower is actually bolted onto.....Quote The idea you describe reminds me of the EGR spacer on a 5.0thats sort of what i was getting at yeah...to maybe help cool the air somewhat passing between the blower and the heads. im pretty sure thats how the factory unit works.....if course...i could be wrong. note the cooler fluid lines going in and out of the "lower intake". it looks to be the same lower as the factory unit.. Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #36 – November 18, 2005, 08:40:47 AM Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87kenne bell makes some of the worst 5.0L blowers for power production . Look into the ati Procharger. about the same range and a whole lot easier to use an intercooler.If your looking for pure power, most people in the FI world know not to go the roots/twin screw type route. However, roots/twin screw give you what most people want on the street, instant power/torque. Period. If all you are looking for is peak numbers, sure a centrifugal is the way to go. If you are looking a kick in the fuggin pants down low, and roots/twin screw is the way to go..... Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #37 – November 18, 2005, 08:42:31 AM Quote from: Paul FlockhartNope the intercooler is mounted up front in stock 03/04 Cobra applications. Sounds like your referring to the intercaooler Kenne Bell makes for the superchargers THEY make for the 4.6. I meant the stock piece for Ford's eaton supercharger. Something like this...... http://www.southfloridapulleyhq.com/SFPH/cobra/ec_iche.htmThe idea you describe reminds me of the EGR spacer on a 5.0The actual intercooler on the DOHC 4.6 Cobra motor and the 5.4L SC Lightning motor sits UNDER the supercharger/between the heads. The heat exchanger is what is mounted in the bumper. We have water-air intercoolers. Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #38 – November 18, 2005, 08:56:08 AM Ahh OK. It was explained to me a while ago and I misunderstood thinking that they were air to air. I guess Shame's idea in conjuction with the heat exchanger would be a good way to go. Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #39 – November 18, 2005, 12:45:02 PM You can get away with putting the intercooler in the "V" on a Modular engine because it's a very deep "V". The Windsor engines have a camshaft and lifters in that V, so there ain't much room there... Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #40 – November 18, 2005, 01:26:03 PM The mental picture I have is somewhat of a spacer inbetween the lower and the Kenne Bell unit with a heat exchanger up front.... My question is how would you get continuous fluid flow? You need some kind of pump that can move liquid. Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #41 – November 18, 2005, 01:52:03 PM Paul, we (Gen II L & 03/04 Cobras) have a seperate coolant system for the IC, which is moved via an electric pump. I can't remember if the pump is on all the time, or only at a certain temp....I want to say all the time... Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #42 – November 18, 2005, 02:05:10 PM Does pump speed vary with engine speed as a water pump would or is it constant? Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #43 – November 18, 2005, 02:27:42 PM I'm guessing, but I believe its constant....In doing some quick research over at NLOC, it looks like it comes on at X temperature and looks to be constant once it comes on/off.... Quote Selected
intercooler for KB blower Reply #44 – November 18, 2005, 03:34:30 PM Quote from: Paul FlockhartDoes pump speed vary with engine speed as a water pump would or is it constant?even if it was just constant, you could hook up a fan with a thermostatic switch on it. im sure running that pump constantly would keep the fluid pretty cool unless you were realy pushing the car for an extended period of time, like on the highway with gears. but in going that root, you now add the weight of a intercooler, and a radiator for the intercooler, pluss the fluid for it. seems to loose efficiancy having to add something else to cool the cooler. personaly i think it may be better just to have the ducting and run a front mount, instead of haveing it ontop of the motor, then running lines, pump, and heat exchanger with maybe even a fan.forgot to add...now that i think of it, i rember somebody telling me about running your ac system, or modifing one to flow the intercooler? any body hear of this, or is this the type basis for the liquid cooled intercooler with heat exchanger? Quote Selected
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