Oh My!!!! Reply #15 – March 18, 2014, 09:46:17 PM He started out asking just under 20 thousand dollars for the thing. Over about 3 years or so he came down a thousand at a time, kept watching it. Reality finally set in LOL Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #16 – March 23, 2014, 11:36:20 AM Been talking to this guy all week. I asked him for more pictures to include shots of the interior and engine. I'll share them below.I ran the VIN through CARFAX and the last title/registration entry was in Sep 2009 where the mileage was recorded as 16,200. He claims the mileage was recorded wrong at time of sale. Perhaps...The car looks clean and I'm tempted to purchase a ticket to Toledo for an inspection. Anybody in the area? Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #17 – March 23, 2014, 06:46:46 PM that duds camera sux,,now the car looks like tomato juice,,however,, I think your about to score big time!!! maybe this one fell through the cracks and it is actually low miles.sure as hell looks like someone rolled the clock back to 1990 to me. good luck on this.somehow It seems like there are hints of a repaint here,, seeing some good quality work but there are a few items that look to have small tads of overspray that makes me wonder,, even in the engine bay.im prob wrong though.... great looking car. If we are looking at it this close it must be a great deal. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #18 – March 23, 2014, 06:51:32 PM theres that CD changer I keep telling everyone about in my trunk!!!! it was my understanding that it was a dealer option you could buy ,, if the dealer wanted to mess with doing the offering..... I may be wrong but that's exactly the same unit I have.mine is mounted on the right hand side of the trunk though,, not back there. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #19 – March 23, 2014, 08:48:26 PM Quote from: jcassity;431080theres that CD changer I keep telling everyone about in my trunk!!!! it was my understanding that it was a dealer option you could buy ,, if the dealer wanted to mess with doing the offering..... I may be wrong but that's exactly the same unit I have.The CD changer in the picture appears to be a Pioneer. Is that your make? Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #20 – March 24, 2014, 09:07:12 AM either that or kenwood,, either way i have seen both brands in the trunks.i downloaded the manual on the one in my trunk,,,KDC-C710KDC-C660/CKDC-560mine is kenwood. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #21 – March 24, 2014, 03:44:45 PM Those seats don't seem commensurate with the mileage - the cracking and the lower side bolster bowed out. Unless maybe it was daily driven on 5-mile round trips or something like that. The fan shroud has no stickers but I guess someone could have removed them. Something seems odd about the glimmer from the shock towers and it doesn't appear to be from the blurriness of the photos from slow shutter speeds. Definitely look closely if someone goes to check it out.The driver side seat belt receptacle is intact though.I remember that maroon turbo manual car that was for sale here for a long time that finally got bought only for the buyer to flip it for a profit on ebay. That was a genuine 9K or 15K-mile car or whatever the mileage was. I think it was 15K miles. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #22 – March 24, 2014, 06:36:02 PM Shouldn't the lettering on the upper intake plate be natural aluminum instead of black? That plate may have been repainted. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #23 – March 25, 2014, 01:31:04 AM Is that zip tie holding the gauge/dash trim on or holding the keys to it? Wonder what caused the gauge/dash trim to get busted if that's the case?py pictures just about always are done to hide stuff. The seat belt receptacle being intact is good but all eight of mine are still intact and the only one to break on me happened around 190,000 miles.This car could be great but compared to that maroon turbo five-speed, it just doesn't add up. Hopefully someone on here that is close enough to look at it without costing themselves much in travel or time can thoroughly check it out. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #24 – March 25, 2014, 01:52:07 AM Ok here are some under hood shots on a seemingly genuine car with far more mileage and to me, this seems more genuine under the hood (I wouldn't pay $15K but just for comparison...):http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-Cougar-XR7-1987-Mercury-Cougar-XR-7-Sedan-2-Door-5-0L-/141236010366?forcerrptr=true&hash=item20e2527d7e&item=141236010366&pt=US_Cars_TrucksI also just realized the upper radiator support on that red '88 doesn't have any stickers either. That build tag has been messed with as well. It was once bent, probably like the '87, but has been flattened out and repositioned. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #25 – March 25, 2014, 02:48:43 AM Looks like a repaint to me. Paint under the hood is a different color and all the exterior trim has been painted. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #26 – March 25, 2014, 10:29:22 AM The engine bays just aren't THAT shiny :) And it's certainly common to find areas of the engine bay that only have the grey primer...very haphazard spray on the assembly line in some cases. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #27 – March 25, 2014, 01:31:43 PM I've been texting the owner (no voice comms). His name is Anthony Ostrowski. Here's his reply to my question on the low miles: "The car belonged to a friend of my fathers and he never drove it. About three years before I bought it I noticed that he put the car outside after keeping it in the garage for almost twenty years and it was completely neglected for those three years. So I offered to buy it. I have not driven it either."His response to my querry on price: "I'm firm at $6,000 as the car has generated a lot of interest."I asked if the car is a consignment based on the CL pictures of the car parked in a show-room. His reply: "A friend of mine is allowing me to show it in his store."CARFAX report shows the last title transfer was Sep 2009. After careful consideration I decided the car does not present as an ultra low mileage example and the price is not right either. The deal breaker for me are the seats. Waaaaay too much wear to include the 100K mile distended side bolster. I purchased my 88 XR7 with a claimed 53K miles and you can see the difference in the interior: http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?35026-Check-Out-My-88-XR7-Purchased-From-EBay-(53K-original-miles)&highlight= Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #28 – March 25, 2014, 01:48:07 PM The new pictures shed a little more light onto the car, that's for sure.Quote from: Cougars 2 go;431183Ok here are some under hood shots on a seemingly genuine car with far more mileage and to me, this seems more genuine under the hood (I wouldn't pay $15K but just for comparison...):http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-Cougar-XR7-1987-Mercury-Cougar-XR-7-Sedan-2-Door-5-0L-/141236010366?forcerrptr=true&hash=item20e2527d7e&item=141236010366&pt=US_Cars_TrucksI also just realized the upper radiator support on that red '88 doesn't have any stickers either. That build tag has been messed with as well. It was once bent, probably like the '87, but has been flattened out and repositioned.Geez, that one still has the sticker on the passenger side valve cover!Quote from: Cougars 2 go;431133 Something seems odd about the glimmer from the shock towers and it doesn't appear to be from the blurriness of the photos from slow shutter speeds. Definitely look closely if someone goes to check it out. It appears that it may have been painted with a spray can, a brush, or some combination of the two. The color everywhere else on the car seems to match. This isn't even CLOSE. There does in fact appear to be some rather rough spots on the shock towers. My car's been through a lot. Most of it BEFORE my owning it. My shock towers are in better shape than that.Looking further into the car I notice the brake prop block..... That's a part that really doesn't get much sun or weather over a 16,000 mile life with a stock non-TC hood. I would think that it would fair better than the one in my car which is one of the very few original pieces left under the hood with 225K miles on the car. They look nearly identical....Quote from: thunderjet302;431143Shouldn't the lettering on the upper intake plate be natural aluminum instead of black? That plate may have been repainted.Should look like this:I have suspicions now.... I think that there may be an outside shot that this product we are discussing is the result of 2 or more vehicles. Looking at the picture that shows the close up of the front fender well; the lower fender below the moulding leads credibility to the car being repainted. Quote Selected
Oh My!!!! Reply #29 – March 25, 2014, 04:39:16 PM More things I found wrong under the hood (besides the intake plate):All under hood decals are gone.The IAC valve has been changed (no cast in Ford oval on the top). Why? The 134K mile one on my Thunderbird works fine.The A/C defiantly has been changed over to R-134A. Look at the fittings. Plus there are tool marks on the A/C lines on the compressor.The transmission cooler line is bent back toward the engine. It should be snug to the radiator. Not sticking out as far as it does.The rubber hood stoppers don't have paint over spray on them. My Thunderbird and every other Fox Thunderbird/Cougar I've ever seen has paint over spray on the tops of the rubber hood bumpers. Why are those so clean?Distributor boot is missing. Quote Selected
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