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84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo

howdy, i just bought a 84 xr7 with 73k, and i'm having a few issuses with it, it has a tough time idling cold, however there is no misfire. also a lack of power on acceleration. if anyone could tell me how to set/check the ignition timing that would be great! thanks!

ive checked fuel pressure its at 39psi
tps is at .8v

84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo

Reply #1
pull the spout out and time it like any other ford car.

have you tried to pull codes yet? how do the spark plugs look?
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1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
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Reply #2
Quote from: Haystack;423677
pull the spout out and time it like any other ford car.

have you tried to pull codes yet? how do the spark plugs look?






where is the "spout" located?  i think i might have a old code reader somewhere in the garage but never used it. what is the process to retrieve codes?

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Reply #3
http://oldfuelinjection.com/?p=13
 http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,2471.0.html
two different codes procedure.

here I am pulling codes on my 87 bird with a multimeter.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QSiS6wf7oU

there should be two videos. one shows me showing which wires to hook up. you only need a jumper and a volt meter. I find a paperclip works perfect for a jumper.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #4
the spout can be in a couple different places. I am not sure on the turbo cars. on the 302, its right next to the distributor, on my crown vic it was next to the headlights harness.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo

Reply #5
It is right next to the DIZZY. Yank it and time the engine to 10* BTC. You need to do a min idle procedure to clear up the idle issue. Also change or rebuild the IAC MOTOR!
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #6
Quote from: kwilli95;423679
where is the "spout" located?  i think i might have a old code reader somewhere in the garage but never used it. what is the process to retrieve codes?

The yellow wire from the TFI ignition module on the dizzy goes through a one wire connector. That is the SPOUT wire. Unplug the connector.
In 87 they started using a jumper plug to disconnect the SPOUT, but in your case you have to unplug the connector.

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Reply #7
Actually i think the wire is WHITE. But i am not 100% on this. If it is a 1984 the wire should be white. By the way there are several TSB'S on the timing procedure and octane bar for this vehicle.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #8
Quote from: TOM Renzo;423697
Actually i think the wire is WHITE. But i am not 100% on this. If it is a 1984 the wire should be white. By the way there are several TSB'S on the timing procedure and octane bar for this vehicle.


thanks so much for the help!
 since i just bought the car i did a oil change cause it was BLACK.  i replaced the IAC vlave and the connector. i check the timing and it was right at 10 degrees. the idle is a bit better after but still stumbles/surges then dies. i took a quick look at of the spark plugs and it wasn't horrible but the electrode was worn down a bit on one side. i looked at the cap and rotor and they looked good also. 


i didnt get any codes on my code reader

84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo

Reply #9
then your code reader doesn't work.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo

Reply #10
the check engine light is off, could there be something wrong with speed density meter?

84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo

Reply #11
the way i tried to scan it was, plugged my scanner into the big gray connect and the little gray plug, KOEO  held the test button and nothing happens. is that correct?

84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo

Reply #12
just put new plugs and wires on,
i got the KOKR test to work and got codes 25,34,77,25

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Reply #13
Quote from: kwilli95;423723
the check engine light is off, could there be something wrong with speed density meter?
84 EVTM doesn't show a check engine light. Are you sure you have one?

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Reply #14
Quote from: kwilli95;423725
the way i tried to scan it was, plugged my scanner into the big gray connect and the little gray plug, KOEO  held the test button and nothing happens. is that correct?
Did you turn the ignition switch on?