84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo October 22, 2013, 02:47:05 PM howdy, i just bought a 84 xr7 with 73k, and i'm having a few issuses with it, it has a tough time idling cold, however there is no misfire. also a lack of power on acceleration. if anyone could tell me how to set/check the ignition timing that would be great! thanks!ive checked fuel pressure its at 39psitps is at .8v Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #1 – October 22, 2013, 03:23:53 PM pull the spout out and time it like any other ford car.have you tried to pull codes yet? how do the spark plugs look? Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #2 – October 22, 2013, 03:39:09 PM Quote from: Haystack;423677pull the spout out and time it like any other ford car.have you tried to pull codes yet? how do the spark plugs look?where is the "spout" located? i think i might have a old code reader somewhere in the garage but never used it. what is the process to retrieve codes? Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #3 – October 22, 2013, 04:06:22 PM http://oldfuelinjection.com/?p=13 http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,2471.0.html two different codes procedure.here I am pulling codes on my 87 bird with a multimeter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QSiS6wf7oUthere should be two videos. one shows me showing which wires to hook up. you only need a jumper and a volt meter. I find a paperclip works perfect for a jumper. Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #4 – October 22, 2013, 04:12:34 PM the spout can be in a couple different places. I am not sure on the turbo cars. on the 302, its right next to the distributor, on my crown vic it was next to the headlights harness. Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #5 – October 22, 2013, 05:56:21 PM It is right next to the DIZZY. Yank it and time the engine to 10* BTC. You need to do a min idle procedure to clear up the idle issue. Also change or rebuild the IAC MOTOR! Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #6 – October 22, 2013, 06:21:15 PM Quote from: kwilli95;423679where is the "spout" located? i think i might have a old code reader somewhere in the garage but never used it. what is the process to retrieve codes?The yellow wire from the TFI ignition module on the dizzy goes through a one wire connector. That is the SPOUT wire. Unplug the connector.In 87 they started using a jumper plug to disconnect the SPOUT, but in your case you have to unplug the connector. Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #7 – October 22, 2013, 08:14:01 PM Actually i think the wire is WHITE. But i am not 100% on this. If it is a 1984 the wire should be white. By the way there are several TSB'S on the timing procedure and octane bar for this vehicle. Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #8 – October 22, 2013, 10:36:26 PM Quote from: TOM Renzo;423697Actually i think the wire is WHITE. But i am not 100% on this. If it is a 1984 the wire should be white. By the way there are several TSB'S on the timing procedure and octane bar for this vehicle.thanks so much for the help! since i just bought the car i did a oil change cause it was BLACK. i replaced the IAC vlave and the connector. i check the timing and it was right at 10 degrees. the idle is a bit better after but still stumbles/surges then dies. i took a quick look at of the spark plugs and it wasn't horrible but the electrode was worn down a bit on one side. i looked at the cap and rotor and they looked good also. i didnt get any codes on my code reader Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #9 – October 23, 2013, 03:18:32 AM then your code reader doesn't work. Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #10 – October 23, 2013, 08:50:52 AM the check engine light is off, could there be something wrong with speed density meter? Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #11 – October 23, 2013, 11:35:13 AM the way i tried to scan it was, plugged my scanner into the big gray connect and the little gray plug, KOEO held the test button and nothing happens. is that correct? Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #12 – October 23, 2013, 02:08:46 PM just put new plugs and wires on,i got the KOKR test to work and got codes 25,34,77,25 Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #13 – October 23, 2013, 02:33:01 PM Quote from: kwilli95;423723the check engine light is off, could there be something wrong with speed density meter?84 EVTM doesn't show a check engine light. Are you sure you have one? Quote Selected
84 cougar xr7 2.3 turbo Reply #14 – October 23, 2013, 02:34:25 PM Quote from: kwilli95;423725the way i tried to scan it was, plugged my scanner into the big gray connect and the little gray plug, KOEO held the test button and nothing happens. is that correct?Did you turn the ignition switch on? Quote Selected