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Earliest 1983 TBird

Reply #15
Cool!  Got my 5/16/83 date from Carfax too.  What are the odds???? :crazy:  Wondering if that is the actual build date, not the in service date?

I thought I had a Carfax for my Heritage but can't find it.  I'd be curious to see what date that would show since I know the in service date and the date stamp?

Anyone have access to a free carfax? :hick:
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Reply #16
FORD 999 Report includes a confirmed build date, but they are not free anymore......









1983 FORD THUNDERBIRD HERITAGE 5.0
2008 SAAB 9-7X AERO 6.0 (LS2) 1 0f 554 Made
2011 FORD FLEX SEL Family Hauler

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Reply #17
Hmmm, not sure if I have the 999 report or not?  I'll have to check.  Sucks they aren't free any longer....
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Reply #18
Quote from: rodsterh;421190
Hmmm, not sure if I have the 999 report or not?  I'll have to check.  Sucks they aren't free any longer....

The date stamp on my shock tower is the same as the 999 report.....








1983 FORD THUNDERBIRD HERITAGE 5.0
2008 SAAB 9-7X AERO 6.0 (LS2) 1 0f 554 Made
2011 FORD FLEX SEL Family Hauler

Earliest 1983 TBird

Reply #19
Very cool!  Thanks for confirming.


:cheers:

edit...

Just went back to add this info to the "Original cars, owners, dospoogeentation" topic and saw it was already there.  duh

:dunno:  Dunno why I didn't remember that?
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Reply #20
i wonder if the Heritage and Turbo Coupes were all later production.....would make sense, as they rushed the base cars into production first i'm sure.








1983 FORD THUNDERBIRD HERITAGE 5.0
2008 SAAB 9-7X AERO 6.0 (LS2) 1 0f 554 Made
2011 FORD FLEX SEL Family Hauler

Earliest 1983 TBird

Reply #21
Quote from: MY83T;421217
i wonder if the Heritage and Turbo Coupes were all later production.....would make sense, as they rushed the base cars into production first i'm sure.

In theory, David, this is correct. The V6 base models should have been the first off the line. The V8 engine was supposed to be a running option...in other words, as soon as the engines were supplied, they could be dropped in. The Turbo Coupe, AFAIK, was also a running option.

I have a hypothesis...the original date of 12/26/82 was supposed to be the start date of production for 1983 Thunderbirds and Cougars. That got kicked back to 2/83 (the information that I have in the Ford dealer books is that production began around 2/26/83, give or take a few days). I am now wondering if the delay was not just for quality control, but also to add the V8 near the beginning of production. I know the same can be said for the 4-cylinder turbo production. I'm still trying to find more info in the literature and books that are in my possession, but I'm sticking by this hypothesis for the time being. Just a hunch, really, with some evidence to support it.

What we'd really need to find is the earliest 1983 V8 car. Then we could start piecing things together. Same for the earliest 1983 Turbo Coupe.

In any case, the 1983's were almost mid-year cars and had a shorter run than normal.

Earliest 1983 TBird

Reply #22
Quote from: EricCoolCats;421218
In theory, David, this is correct. The V6 base models should have been the first off the line. The V8 engine was supposed to be a running option...in other words, as soon as the engines were supplied, they could be dropped in. The Turbo Coupe, AFAIK, was also a running option.

I have a hypothesis...the original date of 12/26/82 was supposed to be the start date of production for 1983 Thunderbirds and Cougars. That got kicked back to 2/83 (the information that I have in the Ford dealer books is that production began around 2/26/83, give or take a few days). I am now wondering if the delay was not just for quality control, but also to add the V8 near the beginning of production. I know the same can be said for the 4-cylinder turbo production. I'm still trying to find more info in the literature and books that are in my possession, but I'm sticking by this hypothesis for the time being. Just a hunch, really, with some evidence to support it.

What we'd really need to find is the earliest 1983 V8 car. Then we could start piecing things together. Same for the earliest 1983 Turbo Coupe.

In any case, the 1983's were almost mid-year cars and had a shorter run than normal.

Rods Heritage and mine are only 2 weeks apart for build dates, so that makes some sense......i wish Kevin Marti would get his act together so we could get the stats already.  He made a few Turbo Coupe Reports available as a test marketing thing, and silence since then, every year i call and am told next  year.








1983 FORD THUNDERBIRD HERITAGE 5.0
2008 SAAB 9-7X AERO 6.0 (LS2) 1 0f 554 Made
2011 FORD FLEX SEL Family Hauler

Earliest 1983 TBird

Reply #23
Quote from: EricCoolCats;421218
In theory, David, this is correct. The V6 base models should have been the first off the line. The V8 engine was supposed to be a running option...in other words, as soon as the engines were supplied, they could be dropped in. The Turbo Coupe, AFAIK, was also a running option.

I have a hypothesis...the original date of 12/26/82 was supposed to be the start date of production for 1983 Thunderbirds and Cougars. That got kicked back to 2/83 (the information that I have in the Ford dealer books is that production began around 2/26/83, give or take a few days). I am now wondering if the delay was not just for quality control, but also to add the V8 near the beginning of production. I know the same can be said for the 4-cylinder turbo production. I'm still trying to find more info in the literature and books that are in my possession, but I'm sticking by this hypothesis for the time being. Just a hunch, really, with some evidence to support it.

What we'd really need to find is the earliest 1983 V8 car. Then we could start piecing things together. Same for the earliest 1983 Turbo Coupe.

In any case, the 1983's were almost mid-year cars and had a shorter run than normal.


From my earlier post...that theory is what the Feb MT article says too

Motor Trend from Feb 1983 states the first 83's only came with the V6 and were to be available Feb 1983. The 5.0L V8 would be available March and the 2.3 Turbo would follow in May.

There is a Ford commercial for the 1983 Thunderbird saying Coming February 17th which is in line with the MT article.



Quote from: EricCoolCats;421218


What we'd really need to find is the earliest 1983 V8 car. Then we could start piecing things together. Same for the earliest 1983 Turbo Coupe.



Hey, that's what I said in my first post!  LOL  :giggle:

I was doing some searching and found a very original, 6,650 mile V8 Heritage with a very clear 3 18 date stamp on the radiator support.  I think that's the earliest V8 I saw so far assuming the date stamp is original which I believe it is.

Funny thing is some of the sheet metal stampings on the March 18 car are 3 3 where are my April 22 car wears some sheet metal stamped 2 21. Both Lorain cars.  Make you wonder what was going on in the early days of the new Aerobird!

Keep us posted on your findings Eric.
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Reply #24
Quote from: MY83T;421231
Rods Heritage and mine are only 2 weeks apart for build dates, so that makes some sense......i wish Kevin Marti would get his act together so we could get the stats already.  He made a few Turbo Coupe Reports available as a test marketing thing, and silence since then, every year i call and am told next  year.


Maybe more of us need to start calling/emailing Kevin!  :hick:

His info would help clear things up a bit.  I'm wondering if he thinks there isn't much of a demand for the TBird/Cougar reports compared to the Mustangs or if he has a lot of work to compile the raw data?
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Reply #25
Quote from: rodsterh;421257
Maybe more of us need to start calling/emailing Kevin!  :hick:

His info would help clear things up a bit.  I'm wondering if he thinks there isn't much of a demand for the TBird/Cougar reports compared to the Mustangs or if he has a lot of work to compile the raw data?

Both....








1983 FORD THUNDERBIRD HERITAGE 5.0
2008 SAAB 9-7X AERO 6.0 (LS2) 1 0f 554 Made
2011 FORD FLEX SEL Family Hauler

Earliest 1983 TBird

Reply #26
Quote from: 88turbo;420701
mine is a TC so it cant be an early car since they came later in the model year so it would technically be an 83 1/2  5/16/1983 and its 15 days older than I am ;)



Your VIN - ...A145967
My  VIN - ...A144687

Both show a vehicle manufacture date on Carfax of 5/16.

Looks like my VIN was assigned earlier than yours.  Not sure if we can use the consecutive number as a guide to production dates. Maybe a general trend can be found but probably nothing specific.
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Reply #27
Quote from: rodsterh;421262
Your VIN - ...A145967
My  VIN - ...A144687

Both show a vehicle manufacture date on Carfax of 5/16.

Looks like my VIN was assigned earlier than yours.  Not sure if we can use the consecutive number as a guide to production dates. Maybe a general trend can be found but probably nothing specific.

Rod, if im not mistaken, the consecutive unit # is based on all Fords produced, not just Thunderbirds?








1983 FORD THUNDERBIRD HERITAGE 5.0
2008 SAAB 9-7X AERO 6.0 (LS2) 1 0f 554 Made
2011 FORD FLEX SEL Family Hauler

Earliest 1983 TBird

Reply #28
I thought it was specific to the model but could be wrong.  Eric posted this in another topic:

The Atlanta VINs are not the same as the Lorain VINs. In other words, you could have H101234 and A101234, just as an example, at the end of two cars' VIN numbers. It gets weird but that's how Ford assigned VINs. Just FYI.
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1983 FORD THUNDERBIRD HERITAGE 5.0
2008 SAAB 9-7X AERO 6.0 (LS2) 1 0f 554 Made
2011 FORD FLEX SEL Family Hauler