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If you were building a car with the soul intent being to go out and take people's money... What would it be and what would it consist of?

Remember, it has to look like something that nobody would expect to even be quick, much less fast.

say you have a $7500 budget, including initial car purchase

I'm thinking:

80's LTD with:
-460 with forged rods and pistons
-Kasse heads
-good intake and carb, unsure on brand
-good cam, again, unsure on brand
-built c6 with transbrake
-31 spline spool and axles, 4.10 gears
-tubular rear control arms
-widened stock wheels with 275/60 drag radials

throw in a healthy diet to get the weight of the car down and it should be in the 10's...
Currently Birdless but never Foxless

86 Mustang GT

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Reply #1 –
I know this is a ford forum, but I always liked the idea of a chevette with a 3.8 turbo (GN style) drivetrain.

I would really like to see a Tempo RWD conversion. Nobody would like to get spanked by a Tempo lol. A friend of mine had a 440 in a Dodge Shadow, that was a beast. Not a sleeper though, you could tell by looking at it that it would give you a run for your money.
CoogarXR : 1985 Cougar XR-7

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Reply #2 –
It would be a little hard to hide the 460 with the other parts on it, To make people think its slow.
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Reply #3 –
sho tempo. bolts in, looks oem, you can get it over 300 hp.
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Reply #4 –
there is a guy around here that has a 2 door dirty 30. an old bmw 325I that he shoehorned a dohc cobra motor in it. it was stock from the outside and it didn't show any signs of being modified

I personally would put a 2.3 turbo in a pinto wagon. big turbo, intercooler, all the bells and whistles

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Reply #5 –
mid-70s Pinto/Bobcat hatch or wagon comes to mind.  Add a turbo to the 2.3L and you have a light weight rear drive car with good power-to-weight ratio that can run skinny enough tires to pull off the sleeper look.  :)  An older econoline panel van that's been gutted might also do the trick, as would a lowered Ranger.

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Reply #6 –
Quote from: CoogarXR;418141
I know this is a ford forum, but I always liked the idea of a chevette with a 3.8 turbo (GN style) drivetrain.

I would really like to see a Tempo RWD conversion. Nobody would like to get spanked by a Tempo lol. A friend of mine had a 440 in a Dodge Shadow, that was a beast. Not a sleeper though, you could tell by looking at it that it would give you a run for your money.

 
I have thought about dropping a 302, C4 and narrowed rear in a mid 90 model year escort.
Donnie
10 Second NA TBird
Fredericksburg Va

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Reply #7 –
I'm surprised turbo anything is being mentioned as a sleeper....... Between the turbo hanging off the side of the block, the intercooler, and the whistle the only person that's going to think it's just a grandma car is the 16 year olds that have a civic with a fart can on it that somehow turns into a supercar because of said fart can.
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Reply #8 –
Quote from: BornInAFord;418181
mid-70s Pinto/Bobcat hatch or wagon comes to mind.  Add a turbo to the 2.3L and you have a light weight rear drive car with good power-to-weight ratio that can run skinny enough tires to pull off the sleeper look.  :)  An older econoline panel van that's been gutted might also do the trick, as would a lowered Ranger.

Had 2 of those :mullet:
1st was a 74' wagon that had a 69' 429/C6 wedged in there. 8" of the engine was set back into the firewall :evilgrin: Fender-well headers, narrowed mopar 8.75 rear. Although it was quiet, you couldn't hide the N-50s hiding in the rear and the pizza cutters up front.

2nd was a 76' wagon with the port holes and a built 69' 351W/built C4, 68 cougar 9" rear, Granada rotors w/gm calipers. V6 Pinto sway bar up front and a unknown aftermarket rear sway bar. It had 14X9 slots all the way around.


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Reply #9 –
a Ford Van.......

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Reply #10 –
Just for kicks and GIGGLES an LS powered MUSTANG comes to mind. OH shiznit NOW I DID IT!!!

How about a MIATA with a 302 I always loved that setup for sure it is a bad ass SLEEPER !!

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I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

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Reply #11 –
Late 80s daytona z dakota rear diff efi 318 5 speed. 78 fairmont or zephyr with a very nicley built 302. The rustier the better.

A sleeper to me s somthing that appears stock and sacked out. People around here are dumb. If it looks like  t must be slow, right?

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Reply #12 –
Quote from: TOM Renzo;418245
How about a MIATA with a 302 I always loved that setup for sure it is a bad ass SLEEPER !!

:hick::mullet::burnout:

I have a cousin that has a Gen 1 Miata with a 347 stroker. It still has the original wheels and it's totally quiet :evilgrin: Of course he also has a Buel that hits over 200 MPH. He's an Ex-Superbike racer.


86' T/C 4.6L DOHC
16' Chebby Cruze 1.4L Turbo
17’ Peterbilt 389 600hp 1850ftlb Trq 18spd

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Reply #13 –
CoogarXR - a friend of my brother's had a Chevette with a 3.8 turbo in it. His father owned a junkyard and he got his pick of just about everything that came in, so he built that GN/Chevette thing. It was silly fast until he climbed a tree with it...

A guy around here had a nice sleeper for sale recently: A first generation (mid 80's) Plymouth Voyager cargo van (no windows) painted in grey primer and converted to RWD with a 340 in it. That was pretty much the definition of sleeper.

'Nother time, years ago when I had my Trans Am, I had my ass handed to me by a Dodge 600 convertible in a stoplight drag, right in front of everyone. He came back to the parking lot we were all hanging around in, laughing his head off. He opened his hood and there was a turbo 2.2 built to the nuts. The turbo on that thing looked like it belonged on a Peterbilt - the compressor was the size of a dinner plate.

Myself, I'd like to do up a Fairmont wagon with an '86 Mustang front clip. Drivetrain wouldn't matter as long as it was fast, but I want a Mustang wagon...
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Reply #14 –
Quote from: TOM Renzo;418245
Just for kicks and GIGGLES an LS powered MUSTANG comes to mind. OH shiznit NOW I DID IT!!!

How about a MIATA with a 302 I always loved that setup for sure it is a bad ass SLEEPER !!

:hick::mullet::burnout:


Haha! The "Monster Miata"