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Reply #15
He's too busy with the booty video.
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Reply #16
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;379876
Do you not see one thread that you  don't think: "ZOMG...I can go post w in that one too!" ?

Quote from: Shadow;379913
good point! even with his 'temporary paint so his wife wasn't embarrassed to ride in it'


Question answered. :shakehead
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Reply #17
Quote from: V8Demon;379897
There's a reason that in 2005 GM replaced the LS1 in the GTO with the LS2..... It's because the lowly 3v in the S197 Mustang was faster stock for stock. 

Stock LS1 F-body circa 2001 vs Vinnie's car?  I'll take Vin for the win.  Driving abilities being equal of course ;)

 
Last time I went to the track I was running 14.6 e.t.s with my 3700lb fatty (3560lbs without me at 150lbs) and the stock LS1 6-speed Camaro's and Fire Birds were running 14.0-14.2s on street radials. This was on an 85* day. Interestingly I ran the same times I ran when I went to the track the prior year, when it was 55*.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #18
Yeah. They aren't fast. These sound like normalish times for up here as well. very high 13s and mid low 14s from the new junk box camaros as well. Obviously you havbe your quick ones but they are epic meh from the factory. Same goes for every pre terminator/mach 1 mustang that left the factory as well. They are just about fast enough to be fun but nothing I'd ever call fast. I had a local WS6 with cams tucked up my ass and I fully expected to lose but I dragged him down the road consistently  on 3 pulls to over 130 in my little junk box. I was pretty surprised. Ditto for a 96 corvette and a 2000 vette coupe. I drove the 2000 myself at the track, made 16 pulls and couldn't run fast enough to put a helmet on.
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

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Reply #19
I've yet to see a stock LS1 car run faster than a high 13 at the track on street tires. Makes me wonder how the car mags got faster times... On the street I've pulled on a few LS1 cars but not by much maybe a foot or so if that. At least in my case a GT40P headed car should be close to a LS1 car in stock form, at the track. I've seen some nasty LS1 cars at the track but they were not stock. I've also seen nasty 5.0 cars but again they were not stock. Locally stock/bolt on LS1 Camaro's/Firebirds and aluminum H/C/I 5.0 Fox bodies seem to run consistant 13.00-14.0 times on street tires. The only 12.99 and faster cars seem to be blower cars or big block cars.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #20
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;379926
Question answered. :shakehead

complain a little more.. you're worse than a woman
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Reply #21
I have personally seen a stock LS1 run 12.90s @ 108.  It took him a fully day of practice, but it happened.  The car was an 01 Z28 6 speed, Ttop car.  Mine was a lot slower (auto, convertible) and it ran consistent 13.70s @ 101.  I have seen stock auto ram air cars running 13.1-13.2.  MM&FF had a shootout between an LS1 Z28 and a Bullitt back around 2002ish and the Z28 ran 12.80s to the Bullitts 13.70s, if I recall correctly.  I believe it was Evan Smith driving both cars, and he can squeeze awesome times out of stuff.

Also, we have had very close races with LS1 cars in my buddies SSP Mustang back when it was a stock engine with bolt ons, and a blower.

As as disclaimer, I love Camaros, Mustangs, but most of all Cougars and Thunderbirds.
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Reply #22
Quote from: Loaded87IROC;379940
I have personally seen a stock LS1 run 12.90s @ 108.  It took him a fully day of practice, but it happened.  The car was an 01 Z28 6 speed, Ttop car.

was he 100% stock? that's pretty impressive, as the fastest i've seen a bone stock LS1 run is 13.5 or so.. supposedly a K&N intake makes a vast improvement over the stock configuration.. and by vast, i mean much larger gains than usual
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #23
Quote from: Shadow;379939
complain a little more.. you're worse than a woman

 
It's hard to stand out in a thread so full of troll as this one, but kudos on doing so.
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Reply #24
Stock.  Nice spring day. 

We later dynoed our cars and mine put down 284 rwhp and his put down 314 rwhp, but he had a lid and Dynomax ler by that point.
1986 Mercury Cougar - 2.3T/T5 swap, TC brakes and suspension and rearend, 3" exhaust, 255 lph fuel pump, Stinger BOV, Gillis MBC @ 18 psi
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Reply #25
Here is a link to that article I referenced earlier.

http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Bullitt_Article2.htm
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2003 Chevy Suburban Z71 - Daily driver
2015 Chevy Volt - Wife's daily driver

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Reply #26
You guys just have no idea  and ill  leave it at that for now

It's all  about bang for the buck.
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Reply #27
Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87;379953
You guys just have no idea  and ill  leave it at that for now

It's all  about bang for the buck.

there was a sbf vs LSx argument on here not too long ago.. we know there's more bang for your buck in the LSx's, but some of us don't like them for our own personal reasons
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #28
Anyone notice I said GTO and not Camaro when I referenced to the 3v?  If you guys hate on the IRS in the 03-04 Cobras, take  look at what the GTO had....HIDEOUS.  An even larger hindrance then the noodle of a driveshaft/rear the last generation Camaros were saddled with.

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I have personally seen a stock LS1 run 12.90s @ 108. It took him a fully day of practice, but it happened. The car was an 01 Z28 6 speed, Ttop car.
There is a youtube video floating around of a supposedly bone stock LS1 Camaro pulling 12.9's.....

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You guys just have no idea and ill leave it at that for now
I'm not saying this to incite a flame war or an argument, but I do feel that statement is unwarranted.
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Reply #29
Quote from: Shadow;379956
there was a sbf vs LSx argument on here not too long ago.. we know there's more bang for your buck in the LSx's, but some of us don't like them for our own personal reasons

Understandable but the brand wars died  along time ago time to grow up and realize theres other stuff out  there

And im sure you guys do realize the ls motors and sbf have more  in common then the ls and sbc?

Im dont carry a  flag for any manfacturer and some of the older guys here that know me  can vouch for that.
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