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Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Is there anyway to fit that joker and its drivetrain in my thuderbird and not have to many problems (besides the wiring). I thought that it would be a lot different to see a thunderbird with the new 5.0 runing around, not to mention i wouldn't have to upgrade it to much if i had to, 400+ hp is more than enough for a daily driver and i don't have much problem getting my hands on the parts either, for i work in a collision repair shop and have to constantly go to junk yards, plus we have a 2011 Mustang 5.0(it has auto. but i will find the 6-speed trans. and install it) thats in the back that was rolled a couple of times and my boss bought it from the insurance company and hasn't done anything to it and if this swap is at all possible i might ask him if he is willing to sell it.
1987 Thunderbird Sport (soon to be GT edition) - In shop getting new paint job and interior work. (put on hold as of 11/2/2010, Resumed and going at it slowly its hard to be poor nowadays...)

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #2 –
I would think it would be along the same lines as a 4.6 swap.
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

new 5.0

Reply #3 –
Well maybe..

Its a Jag engine. It has almost nothing at all in common with the 4.6 short of the bellhousing. Its a front "sump". Its not really a sump at all, more like a flat oil pan.

the engine at its widest point is almost 30" wide. It would be one Hell of a swap.. but would be a pain. you can order the hole setup including ecu and harness from FMS.

They have a stand alone fuel injection system available for it to... if you have almost $9K to blow!
1963 Lincoln Continental Cov. 455ci
1984 Thunderbird Elan 232ci 3.8L Super Coupe "in swap stage"
1998 Lincoln Mark VIII 4.6 280CI 4.6DOHC V8
                        :birdsmily:

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #4 –
It will fit. There is one in a Fox Mustang GT of the 82 vintage. Looks really cool under the hood.
1988 Thunderbird Sport. Work in Progress
5.8L swap w/fitech efi, 4R70W swap w/quick 4 controller, 2003 GT rear diff, 5 Lug swap

Bought this car back as an old project car.

:burnout:

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #5 –
Quote from: 86caprirs;336024
It will fit. There is one in a Fox Mustang GT of the 82 vintage. Looks really cool under the hood.


:ttiwwp: you know what to do.... :beatyoass: :D

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #6 –
Quote from: Elantbird84;335993
Well maybe..

Its a Jag engine. It has almost nothing at all in common with the 4.6 short of the bellhousing. Its a front "sump". Its not really a sump at all, more like a flat oil pan.

the engine at its widest point is almost 30" wide. It would be one Hell of a swap.. but would be a pain. you can order the hole setup including ecu and harness from FMS.

They have a stand alone fuel injection system available for it to... if you have almost $9K to blow!


Good thing it was actually Ford designed, engineered and built.
Project 3G: Grandpa Grocery Getter-'85 Crown Vic LTD 2-door, 351W with heavily ported/polished GT40 heads, heavily ported/polished Typhoon Power Plus upper & lower intake, Comp Cams 265DEH retarded 1*, FAST EZ-EFI, HD T5, 8.8" 3.73 trac lock with extra clutches, 3G alt. swap, '99 CVPI front brakes, '09 CVPI rear disc brakes, '00 CVPI booster&m/c + wilwood adj prop valve.

Parted & Gone-'88 T-bird Sport, 351W swap, ported GT40 heads

5.0

Reply #7 –
Quote from: Sick88Tbird;336052
Good thing it was actually Ford designed, engineered and built.


I agree completely! ford does not need all the issues jag has. God knows my xkr has a ton of them..
1963 Lincoln Continental Cov. 455ci
1984 Thunderbird Elan 232ci 3.8L Super Coupe "in swap stage"
1998 Lincoln Mark VIII 4.6 280CI 4.6DOHC V8
                        :birdsmily:

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #8 –
The only one I know of currently under construction is a Fox Mustang Coupe on stangnet.com

They already have a problem with oil pan fitment  hitting the k-member.
That is the site I go to to see how the swap will work.

No-one yet makes Fox headers for the Coyote 5.0.
The 2011 Mustang headers aim right into the firewall. Might work in reverse for a turbo set-up ?


Here is a link on their build-up....go to page 6 and see how the oil pan hits the k-member.


http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/806081-stangnet-11-5-0-notch-project.html

Edit; Might have to be a member to view the pics.
Alan Mackin--Semi Professional Ford der
83 T-Bird 460
83 T-Bird Heritage 5.0
84 T-Bird 5.0
86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe NHRA Stocker & Super Stocker
87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe
88 Bronco II Drag truck 302
95 Mustang GT auto
2004 F-350 CC Dually V-10

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #10 –
You could use the FAST EZ-EFI to run the Coyote 5.0, but I don't think they have anything to control the variable valve timing, so you'd lose out on what makes that motor so potent...lol.  I have to check it out a little more because I'm probably going to use it on my 351W when it goes into the Crown Vic...it's only money, right?

Good luck,
Don
Project 3G: Grandpa Grocery Getter-'85 Crown Vic LTD 2-door, 351W with heavily ported/polished GT40 heads, heavily ported/polished Typhoon Power Plus upper & lower intake, Comp Cams 265DEH retarded 1*, FAST EZ-EFI, HD T5, 8.8" 3.73 trac lock with extra clutches, 3G alt. swap, '99 CVPI front brakes, '09 CVPI rear disc brakes, '00 CVPI booster&m/c + wilwood adj prop valve.

Parted & Gone-'88 T-bird Sport, 351W swap, ported GT40 heads

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #11 –
I got to see one of those Coyote 5.0 crate engines up close and personal @ the NMRA Finals in BG at the Ford display and I really want one now !

Those 2011 GT headers look like they could easily be turned around for a turbo install or a front exit exhaust for now (cheap way out)

There is a huge air gap between the top of the block and the bottom side of the intake. You could hide nitrous stuff in there easily !.....LOL

At any rate, I talked to my wife while she was sitting in the golf cart watching me drool over that engine.:D
I told her it would be wiser in the long run to purchase the crate engine and electronic control package for around 7,400 total than it would be to pay a local machine shop to build me a 7,000 rpm screaming 435 hp engine.

I trust Ford's quality control system more than I do the local machine shop.
Imagine having a screamer 444 lb engine that idles super smooth....:D
Alan Mackin--Semi Professional Ford der
83 T-Bird 460
83 T-Bird Heritage 5.0
84 T-Bird 5.0
86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe NHRA Stocker & Super Stocker
87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe
88 Bronco II Drag truck 302
95 Mustang GT auto
2004 F-350 CC Dually V-10

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #12 –
Quote from: Sick88Tbird;337028
You could use the FAST EZ-EFI

mmmmmm, F.A.S.T. injection


Quote from: 83-88T-Bird Guy;338570
Imagine having a screamer 444 lb engine that idles super smooth....:D

boooo.. i'd rather people know i have something nasty hiding under the hood by the rough, lopey idle :D

Will the new 5.0 fit into a 87' Bird?

Reply #14 –
BBK makes a set of coyote swap headers w/x-pipe for fox bodied stangs. They are $569.99 and x-pipes from $249.99 to $479.99. Not cheap by any means.


86' T/C 4.6L DOHC
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