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Reply #15
How much do they usually go for?
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #16
And I have the DS for the C6 already
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #17
The sc aod is not that bad, You need something built . ford sucks at there aod's. sc or whatever. The sc never had the torque a built 302 has to kill it.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #18
Quote from: dominator;314981
Still say for the money it is going to cost you to get a custom driveshaft for the c6 and loosing od, you should try to find an aod out of a supercoupe.
They were the strongest of the aod's and handled 300+lbs feet of torque out of the box.
Go on sccoa and put up a wanted add in your area,you'll definetley find one for cheap and it will bolt right up.

He doesn't care about the highway, That C6 would be ideal. ic, you should put in here what your goals are to get some different opinions.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #19
Quote from: Kitz Kat;314987
He doesn't care about the highway, That C6 would be ideal.


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88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

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Reply #20
kitz, my goal right now is to get it together and moving under it's own power. There's a bunch of stuff that need to be sorted out after the swap, as well as upgrades. It'll probably be another year to get everything sorted out and totally back together after it gets painted. If I wait for everything that I want on the car, It'll be 5 more years before it gets finished. I need to concentrate on getting it back together and then upgrading whatever is left. Who knows Kitz, maybe I'll have your AOD in my car next year.
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #21
Btw, You guys have no idea how much I've spent on the car just to get it to this point with no motor. I'm not trying to slap it together to finish it, but like I said, I can upgrade the transmission after I get the car rolling again, and save a few bucks up for the upgrades.
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #22
I'd get KItz's AOD if you can. It would work great if you ever intend to drive the car on the highway, ever. You could use the C6 for now and swap in a nice AOD later. For a nice, built, AOD and a good converter (ie a Precision Industries converter) you're looking at a price tag at or north of $2000. I know because I'm going through this process right now. :hick:

Oh and do you know what balance weight the flywheel has on it? It should be a 50oz weight (to go with the crank balance) or you'll vibrate the motor to death....
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #23
Quote from: Clintd;314949
The Converter out of a Mark VII has the highest stall out of them all.


Makes sense.  I wonder if it's higher than a Mustang's and maybe the extra weight of the Mark VII actually taken into consideration....

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Btw, You guys have no idea how much I've spent on the car just to get it to this point with no motor.

Thinking about the man-hours alone is quite staggering.... ;)
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Reply #24
Quote from: thunderjet302;315025
Oh and do you know what balance weight the flywheel has on it? It should be a 50oz weight (to go with the crank balance) or you'll vibrate the motor to death....


No idea, it was all on the parts bird when I got it. it didn't vibrate that I noticed. How do I find out?
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #25
They usually say but the marking may have rubbed/rusted away.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #26
I'll look tomorrow
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #27
The T-Bird had the 50 oz.......
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #28
Your right about the sc not having the torque of a built 302 but i was not talking about a built motor.
What i was saying is that the sc's aod was built tougher in stock form to handle more torque than the mustang aod.
The transmission strength and longevity also depends on how you treat it.
If you go around town doing neutral drops and brake stands all the time no stock trans will handle that(drive your car for the parts you have not the parts you want) and will grenade.
I run a stock clutched mustang aod with a 24-2600 stall and a valvebody with 500+hp and it's still in the car 4yrs after i built it.
Yes i drive it like i stole it but i take it easy on the trans as much as possible until i can put my lentech in.
As for the not driving the car on the hwy,overdrive is not only for hwy use ya know,i use it anytime i'm over 70kmh(which is quite often) and it save's alot of fuel so, i don't want or need to hear about overdrive being only for the purpose of hwy,that's just BS,live in the 00s guys not the 60s.
The C6(yes i had one and it was built to handle 9sec 1/4s)is a strong trans but revs to the moon with 3.73 gears at speed in 3rd gear and it's a heavy beast as well,much heavier than the AOD.
Keep with the 80s jerry and skip the C6, stay with the AOD, just dont use the one from your 3.8L as it will go out on ya quickly with the combo you propose.
The stock 3.8 non sc AOD is the weakest of all the AOD's and is only good for the s pile unless properly built.
To answer your other question about price,under $150.00.
I've seen many sell for 150 or less on their.

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Reply #29
Let me pm ya jerry.
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