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no oil pressure at high rpms

My friend has an F-250 with a 5.0. with 250,000 miles. He looses oil pressure after the motor warms up at high rpms.( like when he passes someone on the highway). He had the pump, pick up tube and pan replaced new a year and a half ago. It did it back then before the replacement parts also. any ideas? bad pump? sludge? something else?

Jerry
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Reply #1
sounds like somethings blocking the sending unit. that motor wouldn't last long with no oil pressure at 3500 rpms.
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Reply #2
Time to hook up a true mechanical gauge and go for a drive......
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Reply #3
The gauge is working properly. He has to shut it down because the engine isn't circulating oil and starts to tic.
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Reply #4
The last of the 318's they put in Dodge trucks would do something similar.  The lifters were usually the culprit.  Those held good pressure though when warm though......

If the cold pressure is within specs, this is sign of worn bearings......what weight oil is on it now?
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--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #5
pull the sending unit off. then pull the distibutor and re-prime the pump. if you don't see any oil coming out where the sending unit was then you have a bad pump. if it does come out you have a bad sender.
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Reply #6
BTW, my old dodge had an oil pressure issue, but was the reverse of your friends. I woul lose oil pressure at a warm idle. that was due to sludge. I did everything I could do to remove it, but the only remedy would be to have the block vatted.
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Reply #7
He's probably running 10w-30
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Reply #8
he may be pumping all the oil up on the heads, and the oil return holes are clogged with sludge and letting the oil pan run dry.... pop the VC off and se the oil returns clear ...
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Reply #9
Quote from: BogusSVO;308833
he may be pumping all the oil up on the heads, and the oil return holes are clogged with sludge and letting the oil pan run dry.... pop the VC off and se the oil returns clear ...


He's going to check that first.
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Reply #10
Can the oil pick-up move in a 5.0?  I had a small block chevy doing this once and the oil pick-up was pressed in and moved up highter (I think this happened when the pan was put on).  So it was not down as low it it should have been and staving for oil when the oil moved back under higher RPM.

I can of feel bad not knowing about 5.0 engines and being on this forum.

TED

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Reply #11
5.0/302 has a bolt on pick up, yes the bolts could shake loose, also there are gaskets between the the pick up and pump, and the pump and the block.

if the pick up was loose, or the gaskets failing, he would not have oil pressure at any time, for it is easier for it to pump air than oil.
1985 TC (yet another one) Fully loaded
has 225k mile  still with the factory head gasket






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Reply #12
High volume pump + stock size oil pan = potential for oil starvation.  Make sure it's FULL. 

I have an 8 quart pan & pickup awaiting install with Chucks mounts and some other goodies......
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Reply #13
He does have a high volume pump that was put in last year.
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Reply #14
then that's why he's losing pressure.
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