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HP,,, guess

Reply #15 –
Ahem....exhaust valve....cough.....(clears throat).......
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

HP,,, guess

Reply #16 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;257681
Ahem....exhaust valve....cough.....(clears throat).......


Overlap, duration and ramp rate.....

And as I said  ....ALMOST nothing AFA max lift is concerned...
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

HP,,, guess

Reply #17 –
Paul, I here you, but to shove a cam in without knowing the specs is and can be bad! Theres not much lead way with higher lift cams.
Every thousands matter. You can get the best "custom cam" if it is not installed right you will bend valves.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

HP,,, guess

Reply #18 –
Paul, If lift didn't matter, why can't we run 600+ lift?
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +
 

HP,,, guess

Reply #19 –
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Paul, I here you, but to shove a cam in without knowing the specs is and can be bad! Theres not much lead way with higher lift cams.
Every thousands matter. You can get the best "custom cam" if it is not installed right you will bend valves.



Kitz,  I'm the person who's actually saying to check the PTV clearance.  I totally agree that not knowing the specs is a bad thing.  Custom cams come with the specs :)  That piece of paper in the pic I posted is in fact the spec card.  There is no doubt in my mind from looking at it and comparing it to my current stage 1 that provided it is installed correctly, the new cam will have plenty of clearance.

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Paul, If lift didn't matter, why can't we run 600+ lift?


Can't and shouldn't are 2 different things....Depending on the rest of the combo.  As ramp rates increase, so does the need for more seat pressure and upgraded springs/locks/retainers as you also stated above.

FWIW My buddy ran more the .600" with some dished pistons a standard block and some Monstrously ported GT-40 heads...The duration was quite high as well and peak power occured just past 7200 RPM.  The block itself was from a '91 Town Car.

To look at JUST max lift as is often done leaves many viable options off the table.  FWIW I'll bet you could grind a cam with .450" max lift with 1.6 rockers for a 5.0 Windsor and have less than optimum clearance even if installed with zero degrees advance.

Duration, ramp rate, overlap.


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Please read the quote I've placed in my first post in the thread. ;)
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

HP,,, guess

Reply #20 –
This is the last comment I make here on his post, because it won't help him. I seen your first post. I do disagree with your thinking.
You can Pm me to talk more.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

HP,,, guess

Reply #21 –
Fair enough, but the words in the quote aren't my words.....they're the words of an engine builder with far more experience than me.  I've seen enough to know it's true.

Also: 





-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

HP,,, guess

Reply #22 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;257681
Ahem....exhaust valve....cough.....(clears throat).......

Ahem...factory cast heads with stock springs.

You can easily run a TFS#1 cam with your Twisted Wedge heads. Ask TurboCoupe50. He has been running that setup for quite a few years with no issues.

Just as V8Demon says, lift is only a factor in PTV clearance.

Either that, or you can listen to other people and smack a valve. We don't see it from out computers.
It's Gumby's fault.

HP,,, guess

Reply #23 –
Quote from: Tbird232ci;257703
Ahem...factory cast heads with stock springs.

And an over-rev....

Valve float is not your friend...
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

HP,,, guess

Reply #24 –
Over rev.......That brings chills to me.BAAAAAD memories.LOL.I was lucky it was only one valve.I haven't had a problem since I got re-acquainted with a standard transmission.It had been years since I drove one when I killed the valve.I DID spank a Mustang GT in the process though,so,it wasn't completely for not.LOL.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

HP,,, guess

Reply #25 –
IF clearance was a issue on the TW heads, you'd have long been hearing about bent valves... This is because with the rotated(twisted) valve configuration, no conventional pistons have reliefs that are in the correct position... Basically unless you have TW specific pistons, they ALL are flattops... To a TW head, HO pistons are identical to SO's...

HP,,, guess

Reply #26 –
Listen, no where did i say i was all knowing.
Yep my car does have a good amount of power,none of your business or concern.
I don't need to be insulted by you saying i can't read more than one sentence,was way uncalled for.
Got plenty of knowledge about engines and don't need to explain to you.

HP,,, guess

Reply #27 –
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Listen, no where did i say i was all knowing.
Yep my car does have a good amount of power,none of your business or concern.

Hmmmm.... Remember THIS?

Quote from: Dominator
K done with this thread,you guys are idiots,who here has a 500hp 5.0L....do i here crickets o yea that's right i do and i know what it takes to make hp.
I'm also a liscensed class A mechanic.
Why do you think nobody with real hp except me has posted in this thread,it's because you won't listen.

In case you don't it's post #23 here:

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=14078&highlight=throttle+body

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I don't need to be insulted by you saying i can't read more than one sentence,was way uncalled for.

Your comment directed at me warranted my response. Also I didn't say you were incapable of reading more than one sentence, I said in that instance that I surmised you didn't.  By the tone of YOUR post it impressed that you read very little of my post and just began to type yours.  Follow through appears to be lacking on posting and reading on your part.

BTW, THIS HERE is saying that you can't read more than one sentence:  http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showpost.php?p=149874&postcount=26 

Quote from: softtouch;149874
Your ignorance is showing. Look up fluid in your dictionary, assuming you can read a dictionary.

That was from possibly the most even tempered individual on here.  I'd be very surprised if you could find another post of that nature from him.

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Got plenty of knowledge about engines and don't need to explain to you.

Trust me, I don't need an explanation of ANY sort from you.  If you DO decide to contribute to a tech thread, at least have the decency and self-respect to give the best possible answer you can instead of giving a half-assed generalization.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

HP,,, guess

Reply #28 –
Thanks Guys.................
88 sport,TW heads, comp xe270hr, cobra u/Tmoss ported lower, 65 mm throttle body, under drives,smog delete,
1.7 roller rockers, cai, k&n, bbk adj regulator, 76mm Pro-m,all MSD ign. MSD dist,18° base timing, 3g alt.1 5/8 ceramic headers, 255lph walbro, 2.5" h-pipe, flowmasters, silverfox valvebody, 3.73 gear,
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc154/flipnbird/DSCF0185.jpg ( RIP : ( )

HP,,, guess

Reply #29 –
You know first off you look like a stalker, who just has to follow every post i ever made.
My usual response to you would be F OFF but i'm not gonna do that here.
Your the one pickin a fight and have been from the get go.
Just shows the quality and integrity you have,RIGHT ON you go girl.
Secondly my car against your any day(since you brought it up)then we'll see you can build better.
You look like a real A-Hole to everyone on here who knows me and that i have helped in the past.
You wanna start a WAR because you have nothing better to do in your pitifull life fine,count me out.
However i will point out to the mods that he did insult me un purpose and should be warned.
I only told him to take a pill because he comes in here guns blazin.