political vent October 27, 2008, 12:35:05 AM i feel like barry is not coming clean with his being a us citizen and for the sake of saving face, one judge has granted a suit be dismissed on behalf of barry. I have been following this topic and made it my adventure for about 6 months now and after numberous phone calls, letters to the DNC as well as calling, requesting the very information that is not being supplied, being told by the hawaii hospital that its not public yet, ect ect, finally I am convinced that for one reason only, we will never know.Take into consideration that the rules are clear an that when ones citizenship is questioned, the lack of any response to exceed 30days is by law admission of guilt. we are coming close to an awful day and I know in my heart , one day, someone will jokingly say,,,"Ha Ha,, yeah right,, constitutional what?,, thats so old fashioned, for someone to use the constitutional rights card"Here is the reason and the response of the one and only judge who granted the case be dismissed in the middle of the night. Please, any intelligent person cypher what the hell this is suppose to mean............... I am sure that any further lawsuit would be in vein as many judges and similar level political leverage are going to be out of circulation until after the election.Are we in the mood for another 4 years of an illegal president?"Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."were are you america,?,,, ofcourse this is only my opinion as it matter none apparently each time i see the progress made on where the bail out package is going and the economic situation we are fighting through.We really need to clean house, start over. Quote Selected
political vent Reply #1 – October 27, 2008, 07:45:31 AM My view is he probably is natural-born, so why not just come out with the stuff and shut everyone of us up.:D Quote Selected
political vent Reply #2 – October 27, 2008, 09:09:26 AM OK, so how about putting this into some context for those of us who have not been following the mudslinging and muckraking (and are throroughly tired of the "He said, she said" attack ads on TV)? I've heard some of the news bites (who the hell is Joe the Plumber, anyway??? And what does clogged toilets have to do with an election? Oh, wait...) but what are we talking about here?You guys are lucky, in a way. We Canadians have had to listen to two sets of political vilification this year - yours AND ours. Now, since this is a "rant" thread, I'll add one of my own, and I think it's a rant that crosses party lines (and international borders):It was announced that Canadian voter turn out was the lowest recorded. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that politicians do their best to turn voters off? There's no "This is what I'm going to do for you", it's more like "This is what my opponent has done to you". They're not even trying to convince us to vote for themselves, they're only interested in convincing us to vote against the other guy. It heartily sickens me. I miss the days of being promised the world, even though I knew full well the promises would be broken. At least the ads were optimistic. We used to vote for the guy we liked the most, now we vote for the guy we dislike the least. Quote Selected
political vent Reply #3 – October 27, 2008, 03:46:44 PM Really, what does this have to do with policy? You know, the part of politics that matters. Good job being drawn into the spin machine and voting based on something that truly doesn't affect your life in any way possible.Keep your eye on the ball, people. The ball is the next four years, and beyond. Quote Selected
political vent Reply #4 – October 27, 2008, 04:01:01 PM Quote from: jcassity;240485We really need to clean house, start over.That won't happen until everyone stops feeding into the failed system that is in place now... Quote Selected
political vent Reply #5 – October 27, 2008, 04:37:44 PM I'd bet Obama is U.S. born.If not,don't you think that would've already been noticed/Also,if you are born to a U.S. parent in a foreign country,you're still a U.S. citizen.I'm not arguing,nor will I.That was just my own opinion. Quote Selected
sigh Reply #6 – October 27, 2008, 04:50:29 PM Obama is a natural-born US citizen, Christian, U.S. educated, former college professor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_ObamaVote for whomever you like, but please do it based on facts.Rational thought has benefits beyond enabling you to go faster at the track. Quote Selected
political vent Reply #7 – October 27, 2008, 05:27:22 PM I'd still like to see him release his birth certificate as asked to, instead of hiding behind legalities. McCain released all of his records when this all first came up. It's just a matter of principle to me. I'd sure do it. I've got nothing to hide! Quote Selected
political vent Reply #8 – October 27, 2008, 05:27:56 PM There's about both candidates all over.As stated above,you have to have the facts before you make any decisions.I was told once,believe none of what you hear,and half of what you see.That may be true..I have my mind made up,and I'm early voting Friday. Quote Selected
political vent Reply #9 – October 27, 2008, 05:28:29 PM Quote from: ZondaC12;240596I'd still like to see him release his birth certificate as asked to, instead of hiding behind legalities. McCain released all of his records when this all first came up. It's just a matter of principle to me. I'd sure do it. I've got nothing to hide!Are you running for an office?LOL. Quote Selected
political vent Reply #10 – October 27, 2008, 06:28:15 PM Haha well no, but if I were I would do as McCain did and say "i assure you it's the truth and here's what backs it up" In all honesty I kinda have trouble caring about the election when the Saudis are helping make oil cheap again so I'm putting 93 in my tank for well under $3/gallon LOL. SPACES vinnie SPACES!!!! hahhahahaha j/k Quote Selected
political vent Reply #12 – October 27, 2008, 06:41:09 PM QuoteObama is a natural-born US citizen, Christian, U.S. educated, former college professor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_ObamaVote for whomever you like, but please do it based on facts.Rational thought has benefits beyond enabling you to go faster at the track. must be true if its on the wiki... please, 90% of the people who vote dont do so based on facts. this is as specially true to this election which is going to bring reckord numbers of ignorant people out. Quote Selected
political vent Reply #13 – October 27, 2008, 06:58:55 PM Quote from: t3skidoo;240587Obama is a natural-born US citizen, Christian, U.S. educated, former college professor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_ObamaVote for whomever you like, but please do it based on facts.Rational thought has benefits beyond enabling you to go faster at the track.Rational thought should include not using a wiki as a source of "facts" due to the fact that anyone and everyone can edit and contribute to it. It leads to possibly being an inaccurate and untrustworthy source. Quote Selected
political vent Reply #14 – October 27, 2008, 07:10:11 PM Wikipedia was the first reference Google produced. If someone is really interested, it shouldn't be too hard to find a source more reputable Me? not so interested. I figure anyone "undecided" at this point is either trolling or completely hopeless. Quote Selected