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Reply #30
I have an idea:D
why dont you go to that diy link i have below and troll though the various links which brings you to wiring dagrams i posted up.

With all that info, i am sure you can organize a plan of attack.  I am sure there are diagrams of the ignition system as well as climate control.

can you follow wiring diagrams well?

I would just start off with the starting system and run with it from there.

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Reply #31
Hello All,

      One of the reasons my posts or replies seem to go on and on and on and on and on and on is that I am attempting to provide as much info as possible, at the risk of sounding long-winded, I find that with more information, I am not bogged down with suggestions of areas I have already visited.

      superpinto, from your posts (or lack there of) I could infer you are a very competitent individual who needs some suggestions, or just another novice without a clue (but hey, that's how we all start).

      Is power getting to the EEC-IV processor?  Can you retrieve error codes?  Sometimes the engine won't start because of a power issue, but the computer is still active.

      I am bringing this up only because I have an interesting issue which could be similar to yours.  In my Cougar X, about every four or five months, I'll go to start her, and everything will be dead.  She seems to be *burning* out her batteries (I still don't know why, especially when I can 'swap' her old battery with her new and continue on, after a charging of course).  I believe the most likely culprit is something keeping the circuit open.  There is an unusual buildup of corrosion (especially at the +Terminal).

Where I am going with this is simple; I am obsessed with these cars.  The more information provided, the more fun I will have (and at the risk of speaking for everyone, the more fun we'll all have) in helping you diagnose your current delimma.  Who knows, maybe even your solution will help me figure out my mystery with Cougar X


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Reply #32
do you know how mutch a code reader is?i dont have one .

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Reply #33
here try this page

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/OBD_I.html
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Reply #34
so guess i should have also told you the car wont start right now.sorry for not telling that.

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Reply #35
So how far have you traced the power? or lack of
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Reply #36
to under the dash,the reson itwont start is becuase of the starter to starter solienoid wire.

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Reply #37
Quote from: superpinto;198036
do you know how mutch a code reader is?i dont have one .


I paid approx $60 Cdn for the OBD-1 Ford Code Reader.

That's an informaive link, daminc.  I think I'll bookmark that one :)

Here's another: http://www.iequus.com/product_info.php?product_id=3145&category_id=1_10_3
You should be able to order it directly off of that website.  At the risk of sounding like a salesman, lol, well, I have bought a bunch of tools off of that company, and they all work great.
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Reply #38
i fill so f**kin stupid i left the negative batery cable unhooked hooked it up .and for some reason opened the door and heard the most beatiful sound ding ding ....it felt so good :D .thanks to every one that posted.

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Reply #39
:toilet:

Are you kidding me?

That should have been the FIRST thing you checked.
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Reply #40
it was hooked up a couple of days a go even then it wouldnt get power ,yes im an idioti know that.

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Reply #41
Dude!!!
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Reply #42
i dont know what was different a bout the ground cable it was hooked in almost the exact same place.told my brother he was like told you it was a ground problem.but it all cool right.:D

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Reply #43
Quote from: cougarXLS;198065
I paid approx $60 Cdn for the OBD-1 Ford Code Reader..


compare that to the cost of a paperclip.  A paperclip is all the tool you need.

BTW, your problem is likely a simple solution but  a situation many get themselves caught up in.

Your alternator is partially defective (putting out some AC along with DC) and is boiling the cells in your battery.  Later on you replace the battery again only to find the same happens.  Since the battery did not fix it the last two times, let try an alternator.
Your new alternator is now trying to charge a partially defective battery with partially shorted cells.  This increases the load demand beyond the likely normal limits of a stock alternator so it begins to fail early.

Suggestion for you.........
Replace the alternator and the battery as a matched set.
In additon, fish back into the alternator output harness black/org wires and inspect the splice points leading to the solenoid.  Also inspect the plug for discoloration because this is an area of common failure.  The discoloration is in electrical terms, heat disipation.  Heat disipation is an increase in resistance which equals an unhealthy load on the alternator output.  You may have high resistance across that OEM splice and that in itself combined with a bad plug is why most of the time a new alternator comes with this replacement pigtail for you to install.

check out the 3g alternator upgrad sticky in electrical tech for your wiring configuration and pics.

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Reply #44
I didn't mean to hijack the thread ;)

jcassity, thank-you for this idea...

Another question.... the metal plate that holds the fusebox up under the driver's left dash, is that actually a ground for the fusebox? Or is just a bracket?  I know the floor lightbulb clips onto this plate, so it does act as part of a circuit, but the whole chassie acts a ground...
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