Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #30 – February 07, 2005, 08:58:38 PM Quote from: slamedcatBelive me you woldn't want to put a 5.0 in place of the 4.0, in an areostar. I have a 95 with the 4.0 and there is no room under the hood. Now if yopu put it in the back that would be cool. Yea one of my buddies thinks we should stick a 460 in the back of mine... But I'm thinkin even a 351 would be almost insane... Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #31 – February 07, 2005, 09:05:22 PM Quote from: TurboCoupe50Yea one of my buddies thinks we should stick a 460 in the back of mine... But I'm thinkin even a 351 would be almost insane... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: oh yea!!! Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #32 – February 07, 2005, 09:33:04 PM Quote from: TurboCoupe50 Hey Chuck, here's one, I've kicked around stickin' a 2.3 turbo into a Aerostar. If I could find a early one in decent cond, that had the 2.3('86-'87 only) I might just do it. But I ain't about to hunt up all the pieces to convert a V6 Star..... Just imagine 225hp(yea I'd crank up the boost a little) in a empty box.....It's actually crossed my mind....but I have avoided the mini-van trap thus far...so no need to at this point. I don't see swapping a V6 Aerostar any more different than my 2.3T/T-5 swap into my 87 V6/auto Ranger. Yeah, it would be easier to start with a 2.3 van though. When I was married I actually thought about trying to do one with the 2.3T and the AWD, but I don't think they did a 2.3 with the AWD, so it would have taken screwing around with bellhousings and transfer cases and the lot....I didn't want to go through that much work for a mini-van :wtf: Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #33 – February 07, 2005, 09:58:22 PM How about a 5L in a AWD Aerostar?talon that seats 8 Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #34 – February 07, 2005, 10:55:23 PM there's no replacement for displacement is right..even with power adders, the more displacement you have, the more power you get to the wheels after all the same mods..case in point 347>331>308>306>302 going by the same block with the same heads, intake, and exhaust work blown or not.. Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #35 – February 07, 2005, 11:12:14 PM Quote from: montecitanthere's no replacement for displacement is right..even with power adders, the more displacement you have, the more power you get to the wheels after all the same mods..case in point 347>331>308>306>302 going by the same block with the same heads, intake, and exhaust work blown or not..You're missing the whole point.....Your case is point is not a case in point at all...Obviously in most cases, a power adder on a larger engine will produce a higher output than the same power adder on a smaller one...duh....thank you Mr. ObviousA power adder is just that...a power adder.....thus the statement that a power adder is a replacement for displacement. A power adder on your 302 has the potential to increase it's power output similar to that of a larger engine. Of course if you add the same power adder to a larger engine the potential power output will increase. The factory added a power adder to a 2.3L 4 cyl engine and it wound up with almost the same power output of their "hot" V8 that was over twice the size. It could have been more and they could have added a power adder to the 5.0 as well... They couldn't do any more with the 5.0 at the time and keep the emissions in check and since they couldn't have a "little 4 cyl" out power their top dog engine.... Anyway, that's all beside the point.The whole point is doing more with less...increasing efficiency instead of just increasing size... Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #36 – February 08, 2005, 10:23:31 AM Boosting isn't a replacement for displacement. It actually IS increasing displacement. A 2.3L will only displace 2.3L of air, until you start cramming more in. There is a formula somewhere for calculating actual air displacement with forced induction.In my opinion, the only downside to a Turbo is Lag. Superchargers are power thieves. Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #37 – February 08, 2005, 10:34:23 AM Quote from: oldravenBoosting isn't a replacement for displacement. It actually IS increasing displacement. A 2.3L will only displace 2.3L of air, until you start cramming more in. There is a formula somewhere for calculating actual air displacement with forced induction.Semantics....boost is making the 2.3l like a larger engine. Boost replaces "actual" cubic inches to achieve the displacement increase... Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #38 – February 08, 2005, 11:06:46 AM Yeah. just call me Mr. repetative. :p I guess that'll teach me to not read the entire thread before posting. Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #39 – February 08, 2005, 11:19:41 AM The whole post is kind of repetative...it's not just you.. :D Quote Selected
Re: There´s not replacement for Displacement.... Reply #40 – February 08, 2005, 11:52:14 AM I'm a fan of whatever it takes to make more than 300 ft/lbs. Although my car is only running the 240 from stock, it won't take all that much to break 300. Something about the turbo that I like is the ease of modification.Now my 383, I know for sure that thing is running 300, at the very least. It's a torque monster. And it's instant. It also costs me $36 a week to run. (used to be $60 with the gas 305)I love the turbo, for the awesome thrust, and it never ceases to amaze that, yes, it's still a 4 pot. I love the V8 for it's right now tire burning torque, and of course, that beautiful note. Quote Selected
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