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My friend is on crack

Ok, last night a friend and I got into a debate.  I will leave all specifics out of this so nobody will know who it is.  Anyways, as we were talking, he made a couple of claims about his cars, and I instantly called bs.  I know he doesnt lie, but the method of which these claims came about isn't exactly concrete.  Supposedly some local street racers have a 1/4 strip of road that they use and he ran his cars and they tracked the time with a stop watch.  But lets just take a look at what he said his vehicles ran, and then I'll go over the specs of the vehicles.

Vehicle #1:  13.8 @ 105mph
Vehicle #2:  15.8

Alright, now lets take a look at a few specs on these bone stock vehicles.

Vehicle #1:  201hp/193ftlb  weight: 4400lbs  p/w ratio:  0.045[/i]
Vehicle #2:  130hp  weight:  3065lbs  p/w ratio:  0.042[/i]

I argued that there is NO WAY IN HELL that either of these cars could run those times with those sort of specs.  Let's take a look at my car, in comparison:

My Vehicle:  225hp/300ftlb  weight:  3265lbs  p/w ratio:  0.069[/i]
1/4mi stats:  15.83 @ 90.92mph

Ok, so his vehicle #1 is 1200lbs HEAVIER than my car, has 24 LESS horsepower, and 107 LESS ftlbs of torque, yet not only is its trap speed 15mph better, it somehow runs the 1/4 2 seconds quicker? 

Now how about vehicle #2.  It is 200lbs lighter than mine, but it has 95 less hp (and the same rear end ratio) and I seriously dont think it has anywhere near 300ftlbs either, yet it runs the same ET?  I asked my dad what he thought, and he also says my friend is on crack.

So please tell my friend that he's on crack.  Even after I went over all these facts with him, he still stands by his claims.

My friend is on crack

Reply #1
Quote from: kingcars;152068
Ok, last night a friend and I got into a debate.  I will leave all specifics out of this so nobody will know who it is.  Anyways, as we were talking, he made a couple of claims about his cars, and I instantly called bs.  I know he doesnt lie, but the method of which these claims came about isn't exactly concrete.  Supposedly some local street racers have a 1/4 strip of road that they use and he ran his cars and they tracked the time with a stop watch.  But lets just take a look at what he said his vehicles ran, and then I'll go over the specs of the vehicles.

Vehicle #1:  13.8 @ 105mph
Vehicle #2:  15.8

Alright, now lets take a look at a few specs on these bone stock vehicles.

Vehicle #1:  201hp/193ftlb  weight: 4400lbs
Vehicle #2:  130hp  weight:  3065lbs

I argued that there is NO WAY IN HELL that either of these cars could run those times with those sort of specs.  Let's take a look at my car, in comparison:

My Vehicle:  225hp/300ftlb  weight:  3265lbs
1/4mi stats:  15.83 @ 90.92mph

Ok, so his vehicle #1 is 1200lbs HEAVIER than my car, has 24 LESS horsepower, and 107 LESS ftlbs of torque, yet not only is its trap speed 15mph better, it somehow runs the 1/4 2 seconds quicker? 

Now how about vehicle #2.  It is 200lbs lighter than mine, but it has 95 less hp (and the same rear end ratio) and I seriously dont think it has anywhere near 300ftlbs either, yet it runs the same ET?  I asked my dad what he thought, and he also says my friend is on crack.

So please tell my friend that he's on crack.  Even after I went over all these facts with him, he still stands by his claims.


You need to line 'em up at your REAL local track with a REAL timekeeping system, it all comes out on the piece of paper from the little house at the other end then. If he's that sure of himself add a little "financial incentive" to make things more interesting. Your argument will waste infinite amounts of time and bandwidth if you don't.

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Reply #2
He doesnt live very close to me...and I think that just some common sense could save us both the trouble...

His two cars are 16/17 sec cars.  Plain and simple.

EDIT:  just added some extra info.  (p/w ratios)

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Reply #3
your friend is clearly confused. you are right.
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

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Reply #4
Quote from: kingcars;152068
I argued that there is NO WAY IN HELL that either of these cars could run those times with those sort of specs.  Let's take a look at my car, in comparison:
so his vehicle #1 is 1200lbs HEAVIER than my car, has 24 LESS horsepower, and 107 LESS ftlbs of torque, yet not only is its trap speed 15mph better, it somehow runs the 1/4 2 seconds quicker? 

So please tell my friend that he's on crack.  Even after I went over all these facts with him, he still stands by his claims.


Hook me up with his supplier...I need to go fast too! :hick:

Seriously...he's fulla shiznit..or his car has a JATO rocket bolted to it, one. (My guess is..he doesn't know what a 12 second car feels like when his ass is strapped into one..)
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #5
What are the cars?
93 Festiva L, 193k miles, BP+T/G25MR swap, T3 50trim .48/.42, SRT FMIC, Capri electronics/Rocketchip, 2.5" exhaust
bests: ET 12.86, MPH 110.25, 1.92 short
02 Subaru Impreza WRX, 129k miles
97 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport, 236k miles

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Reply #6
You dont really need to know what the cars are...just look at the stats.  They speak for themselves.

@FordTruckFreeek - Yeah, I'm thinking there must be a rocket strapped to them...

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Reply #7
Aw come on, what are they?
93 Festiva L, 193k miles, BP+T/G25MR swap, T3 50trim .48/.42, SRT FMIC, Capri electronics/Rocketchip, 2.5" exhaust
bests: ET 12.86, MPH 110.25, 1.92 short
02 Subaru Impreza WRX, 129k miles
97 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport, 236k miles

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Reply #8
I'm guessing Vehicle 1 is a Ford Escape.
Possibly a V6 Explorer.

Vehicle 2.......99-02 Cougar 4 cylinder?  Honda Civic?  VW Golf 4 Cylinder?
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #9
im thinking imports, or chevys
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

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Reply #10
Alrighty, I guess we can see who can guess both vehicles first.  Someone is already on the right track, though.  ;)

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Reply #11
honda civic
toyota corolla
chevy caviler
mitz galant
toyota camry
honda accord
kia spectra
hyiunda what ever they are
im out of shiznity slow cars
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

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Reply #12
Haha nope, not even close.  Vehicle 1 has already been mentioned, actually.

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Reply #13
Nissan Sentra?
1983 Thunderbird-302 HO, Holley 650 CFM 4150 DP, Weiand Stealth Intake, Dual-Snorkel Air Cleaner,  Holley Fuel Pump, Procomp HEI Distributor, B&M Holeshot 2400 Converter, Custom 2 1/4 duals with no cats and BBK shorties, Taurus Fan Conversion, FMS Grill, much more to come....


"In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make" - Paris Hilton

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Reply #14
Negative.