My friend is on crack June 05, 2007, 04:22:31 PM Ok, last night a friend and I got into a debate. I will leave all specifics out of this so nobody will know who it is. Anyways, as we were talking, he made a couple of claims about his cars, and I instantly called bs. I know he doesnt lie, but the method of which these claims came about isn't exactly concrete. Supposedly some local street racers have a 1/4 strip of road that they use and he ran his cars and they tracked the time with a stop watch. But lets just take a look at what he said his vehicles ran, and then I'll go over the specs of the vehicles.Vehicle #1: 13.8 @ 105mphVehicle #2: 15.8Alright, now lets take a look at a few specs on these bone stock vehicles.Vehicle #1: 201hp/193ftlb weight: 4400lbs p/w ratio: 0.045[/i]Vehicle #2: 130hp weight: 3065lbs p/w ratio: 0.042[/i]I argued that there is NO WAY IN HELL that either of these cars could run those times with those sort of specs. Let's take a look at my car, in comparison:My Vehicle: 225hp/300ftlb weight: 3265lbs p/w ratio: 0.069[/i]1/4mi stats: 15.83 @ 90.92mphOk, so his vehicle #1 is 1200lbs HEAVIER than my car, has 24 LESS horsepower, and 107 LESS ftlbs of torque, yet not only is its trap speed 15mph better, it somehow runs the 1/4 2 seconds quicker? Now how about vehicle #2. It is 200lbs lighter than mine, but it has 95 less hp (and the same rear end ratio) and I seriously dont think it has anywhere near 300ftlbs either, yet it runs the same ET? I asked my dad what he thought, and he also says my friend is on crack.So please tell my friend that he's on crack. Even after I went over all these facts with him, he still stands by his claims. Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #1 – June 05, 2007, 04:25:53 PM Quote from: kingcars;152068Ok, last night a friend and I got into a debate. I will leave all specifics out of this so nobody will know who it is. Anyways, as we were talking, he made a couple of claims about his cars, and I instantly called bs. I know he doesnt lie, but the method of which these claims came about isn't exactly concrete. Supposedly some local street racers have a 1/4 strip of road that they use and he ran his cars and they tracked the time with a stop watch. But lets just take a look at what he said his vehicles ran, and then I'll go over the specs of the vehicles.Vehicle #1: 13.8 @ 105mphVehicle #2: 15.8Alright, now lets take a look at a few specs on these bone stock vehicles.Vehicle #1: 201hp/193ftlb weight: 4400lbsVehicle #2: 130hp weight: 3065lbsI argued that there is NO WAY IN HELL that either of these cars could run those times with those sort of specs. Let's take a look at my car, in comparison:My Vehicle: 225hp/300ftlb weight: 3265lbs1/4mi stats: 15.83 @ 90.92mphOk, so his vehicle #1 is 1200lbs HEAVIER than my car, has 24 LESS horsepower, and 107 LESS ftlbs of torque, yet not only is its trap speed 15mph better, it somehow runs the 1/4 2 seconds quicker? Now how about vehicle #2. It is 200lbs lighter than mine, but it has 95 less hp (and the same rear end ratio) and I seriously dont think it has anywhere near 300ftlbs either, yet it runs the same ET? I asked my dad what he thought, and he also says my friend is on crack.So please tell my friend that he's on crack. Even after I went over all these facts with him, he still stands by his claims.You need to line 'em up at your REAL local track with a REAL timekeeping system, it all comes out on the piece of paper from the little house at the other end then. If he's that sure of himself add a little "financial incentive" to make things more interesting. Your argument will waste infinite amounts of time and bandwidth if you don't. Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #2 – June 05, 2007, 04:28:09 PM He doesnt live very close to me...and I think that just some common sense could save us both the trouble...His two cars are 16/17 sec cars. Plain and simple.EDIT: just added some extra info. (p/w ratios) Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #3 – June 05, 2007, 05:46:31 PM your friend is clearly confused. you are right. Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #4 – June 05, 2007, 11:30:50 PM Quote from: kingcars;152068I argued that there is NO WAY IN HELL that either of these cars could run those times with those sort of specs. Let's take a look at my car, in comparison:so his vehicle #1 is 1200lbs HEAVIER than my car, has 24 LESS horsepower, and 107 LESS ftlbs of torque, yet not only is its trap speed 15mph better, it somehow runs the 1/4 2 seconds quicker? So please tell my friend that he's on crack. Even after I went over all these facts with him, he still stands by his claims.Hook me up with his supplier...I need to go fast too! :hick:Seriously...he's fulla shiznit..or his car has a JATO rocket bolted to it, one. (My guess is..he doesn't know what a 12 second car feels like when his ass is strapped into one..) Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #6 – June 06, 2007, 02:56:12 AM You dont really need to know what the cars are...just look at the stats. They speak for themselves.@FordTruckFreeek - Yeah, I'm thinking there must be a rocket strapped to them... Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #7 – June 06, 2007, 11:29:44 AM Aw come on, what are they? Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #8 – June 06, 2007, 02:04:32 PM I'm guessing Vehicle 1 is a Ford Escape.Possibly a V6 Explorer.Vehicle 2.......99-02 Cougar 4 cylinder? Honda Civic? VW Golf 4 Cylinder? Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #9 – June 06, 2007, 02:31:47 PM im thinking imports, or chevys Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #10 – June 06, 2007, 02:36:16 PM Alrighty, I guess we can see who can guess both vehicles first. Someone is already on the right track, though. Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #11 – June 06, 2007, 02:40:50 PM honda civictoyota corollachevy cavilermitz galanttoyota camryhonda accordkia spectrahyiunda what ever they areim out of shiznity slow cars Quote Selected
My friend is on crack Reply #12 – June 06, 2007, 03:06:19 PM Haha nope, not even close. Vehicle 1 has already been mentioned, actually. Quote Selected