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351c?

November 07, 2006, 12:23:27 AM

has anyone put a 351c in a bird? I have a turbocoupe with a burnt engine bay that is begging for a carb v8 and I was thinking eather this or a 429.which would fit better? which has better avalability of parts for the conversion?

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Reply #1 – November 07, 2006, 01:06:44 AM

I'll be ed if I can remember who it was, but there was someone on here who used to have a 429 T-bird, ex-TC.

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Reply #2 – November 07, 2006, 06:24:37 AM

I thinkthe 429 was sleepert-bird87 or something like that.

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Reply #3 – November 07, 2006, 08:20:16 AM

Maybe he will chime in here

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Reply #4 – November 07, 2006, 08:53:39 AM

The Clevelands fit, but since a true Cleveland hasn't been mfg in the States since '74, are a rather obscure engine these days(OK the legend lives on... I'll stick to the Windsor family thank you)... The 351M/400 is just as big and heavy as a 429/460 so why bother??? Exaust would be the tough part, dunno if anyone makes headers for such a swap... I wouldn't even consider iron manifolds...

There are lots of swap parts for the 385 series(429/460), but unless the engine is built with good Hi Po parts, a modded 5.0 will out run one...

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Reply #5 – November 07, 2006, 10:07:51 AM

There used to be a member on here who actually modified a carbed intake to EFI and put it on a 351C in an 87. His username was 87Cleveland. I haven't seen him in a very long time, but it was a really sweet car.

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Reply #6 – November 07, 2006, 10:31:40 AM

cleavlands are sweet motors man! they will take alot of hurtin for you without blowin up. parts arenot as hard as people will tell you they are to come buy. just have patients and check racingjunk.com craigslist ebay motors all that stuff often....i would build a bigblock tho haha parts are more availvable{not saying you will never find the cleavland parts} and its bigger. y not haha.

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Reply #7 – November 07, 2006, 07:15:59 PM

lol, btw I thought a cleavland was a big block?? one of my friends down here has a cleavland in a mustang it and it is bad!

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Reply #8 – November 07, 2006, 08:54:17 PM

I currently am putting a cleveland in my TC... I haven't got the engine together yet but it will be in there... Headman makes the headers and canton or moroso makes the oil pan. I got my swap parts off ebay and corral.net...

The cleveland family is denoted as the 335 series and was intended to be a blend of 385(Big block) heads and small block displacement with small block mounting. There are 2V heads and 4V heads and NO it doesn't denote how many valves are in the head. It reffers to the number of venturi the carbs had. The intake and exhaust ports are the main difference on the heads. But also there are 3 types of 4V heads. Open chamber, Closed chamber and Boss. The open chamber heads have a 76cc chamber and no quench. The closed chamber heads have a 67cc chamber and quench. Both of these types of heads have non adjustable rockers and will need to be machined for studs if you want roller rockers. The Boss heads have a 65cc closed chamber design and have adjustable rockers with I think 3/8" studs. They should also be acompanied by a D1ZE casting number.

There also was a 302C design that has 2V ports and a 57cc closed chamber design that was ONLY made in Australia. These engines had a 6" rod with a 3.0 stroke. I am currently trying to get a 302C set of rods, crank, and pistons to make me a 302C because of a long running joke that I had a big block 302 in high school... hooray for young and dumb...

If I haven't given enough info, check out the wikipedia.com version of the 335 series engines.

Methos

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Reply #9 – November 07, 2006, 08:57:31 PM

that was help thanks

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Reply #10 – November 07, 2006, 08:59:05 PM

anyone have any pic?

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Reply #11 – November 07, 2006, 10:41:01 PM

what of? A cleveland in a TC, the heads, overall block... do a search in engine swaping for 87 cleveland and you should be able to find his pics.

Methos

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Reply #12 – November 07, 2006, 10:44:59 PM

pic of it installed. I keep trying to do a search for his username but no luck.

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Reply #13 – November 08, 2006, 09:53:13 AM

Yeah, for some reason I don't see him on the members list. I was pretty sure he was here after EZ board too.

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Reply #14 – November 08, 2006, 12:50:54 PM

The cleveland is a big block like turbocoupe 50 and methos said. Ford quit producing the true cleveland in 74, they are a little rare but out there. Would be a neat swap, a guy i used to work for had a 351C in his 71 Ranchero. Three inch exhaust all the way out, super loud, was pushing about 400 ponies I think.