306 swap in work Reply #45 – July 13, 2006, 12:41:49 AM Quote from: Blown306CougarNOPE:raspberry some how i'll figure out away to get you to stop screwing around with that lame! chezzy! ugly! good for nothing! smog! bottle neck! like trying to $hit a bowling ball! boat anchor!flushing 10 gallons of $hit threw a one inch pipe!tire chock!paper weight!ASH TRAY!s metal!weed grower!drops dead at 4000RPM! never going to make 300 horse power! 155 horsepower 2 barrel intake manifold!:yuck: :D;) did i miss anything? Nickwerd!too much trouble. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #46 – July 13, 2006, 01:05:57 AM Quote from: Blown306CougarNOPE:raspberry some how i'll figure out away to get you to stop screwing around with that lame! chezzy! ugly! good for nothing! smog! bottle neck! like trying to $hit a bowling ball! boat anchor!flushing 10 gallons of $hit threw a one inch pipe!tire chock!paper weight!ASH TRAY!s metal!weed grower!drops dead at 4000RPM! never going to make 300 horse power! 155 horsepower 2 barrel intake manifold!:yuck: :D;) did i miss anything? Nick:flip: krickets,,, do i hear krickets:D Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #47 – July 13, 2006, 01:20:48 AM Quote from: Blown306CougarNOPE:raspberry some how i'll figure out away to get NICK to stop screwing around with ME OFFERING HIS lame! chezzy! ugly! good for nothing! smog!BREATH bottle neck!OPINIONS. HE'Slike trying toCHEW ON HISbowling ballS!ANDAND HIS wee little boat anchor!SPEWING 10 gallons of $hit FROM HIS MECHANCIALLY CHALLENGED MIND.HEthrew a one inch pipe!tire chock!paper weight!ON TOP OF HIS RICE BURNER WHILE HE FILLS HISASH TRAY!HISs metal!weed grower!drops dead at 4000RPM! never going to make 300 horse power! 155 horsepower ELBOW AND INTAKE SITTIN ON THE DINNING ROOM TABLE intake manifold!:yuck: :D;) did i miss anything?:sorry: ;)NOT [COLOR="Red"]DICK[/COLOR]:D :flip: :back at ya,,,:D Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #48 – July 13, 2006, 06:23:09 PM Quote from: jcassityOriginally Posted by Blown306CougarNOPEsome how i'll figure out away to get NICK to stop screwing around with ME OFFERING HIS lame! chezzy! ugly! good for nothing! smog!BREATH bottle neck!OPINIONS.HE'Slike trying toCHEW ON HISbowling ballS!ANDAND HIS wee little boat anchor!SPEWING 10 gallons of $hit FROM HIS MECHANCIALLY CHALLENGED MIND.HEthrew a one inch pipe!tire chock!paper weight!ON TOP OF HIS RICE BURNER WHILE HE FILLS HISASH TRAY!HISs metal!weed grower!drops dead at 4000RPM! never going to make 300 horse power! 155 horsepower ELBOW AND INTAKE SITTIN ON THE DINNING ROOM TABLE intake manifold!did i miss anything? NOTDICK :flip: :raspberryjust get your A$$ to Cat Jam Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #49 – July 24, 2006, 11:21:38 AM Im having serious bracket issues here, still trying to find the piece parts to keep this setup serpentine. im on my way out to get some piece parts off a towncar here in a few minutes.The intake has been done for a few days, I wish i could predict when all the little hold ups will go away and allow me to drop it in. Quote Selected
It's Alive!!! Reply #50 – July 30, 2006, 10:57:36 PM I have my alt and power steering pump situated and secured with brackets off an early 80's LTD so good to go there.I cycled my ign switch a few times to prime the fuel system and then cranked , moved the dizzy a little and IT LIVES!!!!!:D I missed my deadline by a long shot as i still have to dress wiring,add the radiator and bolt on my exhaust ,ect, but finally i got to start her up. Since i start my new job tomorrow,,,(Overhead Crane service), i wont be on top of this daily so it will be slightly delayed even more. QUESTION,,,,,,, WHat electric fan has proved to be the best (from what vehicle?) Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #51 – July 31, 2006, 10:01:49 PM What a mess, still tweeking the harness and deleting unused vac/elec connnections. Im cutting back the wires and tagging them within the wire grommet for future reference.Engine in and a pic of my motor mounts i had to make. I loose the 7/8'' offset by using flat steel. This may effect my fan so thats one reason why i'm interested in an electric fan.The mounts worked out well but i discovered something intersting when i had to drill the single hole in the plate to land each mount stud.,,,,,,,, Did you guys know that the the motor mounts are not exactly the same distance from the rear of the engine block?THe pass side is 12 1/2'' from the rear of the engine block while the driver is approx 11 1/2''. Wierd and i noticed it just when i was going to drill both holes exactly the same. Lucky i noticed the offset in the engine craddle when i did or i would have been off on one side.Zoom in on the water pump pully. The best i could do is use the RIBBED water pump pully from the older LTD. I fillled all the grooves with jb weld to create a smooth surface for the back side of the belt. I also routed my belt kinda odd but the way my alt is setup , it uses a 66'' belt now and takes up all my slack and is fully adjustable with my homemade "L" brackets. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #52 – July 31, 2006, 11:27:21 PM try a tarus elec fan. Or one from a mark 8 and what not.So? Hows the swap so far? I would at least try to find the right pulley. I am not sure I would trust jb weld. Plus its prolly not balanced very well... Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #53 – August 10, 2006, 09:40:31 PM I have a few things i wanna throw out there and get some help with. The engine runs fine but idle is to nearly stall which i sort of expected but not this bad.When this motor was sitting infront of a C6 and had a carb, we had no issues with idle or 10deg timing. Now that it sits infront of a c4 , it seems to demand 50deg timing *per the cam secs* without the sprout plugged in in order for it to keep running. If i insert the sprout, the electronic advance stalls it.Does the C6 converter stall at different R's than a c4?..this is my main question and if so should i search out a stall converter? Im thinking that the torque converter i have is stalling way too early but im confussed cause it did so fine in the bronco a couple years ago.i am running two 46lb injectors and it seems the engine like the fuel presure at 40 or so like normal.inserting a minor vac leak helps things a little but i should not have to do that.i purchased a linc dizzy for it and suspected the pick up was causing the trouble and destroyed the shaft while pressing the gear off. Anyway, the pick up must have been ok cause i have the same results. I have driven the car around and have no issues with brakes as far as vac goes. i just have trouble keeping it running and playing the "throw it in N and tap the gas" game when i come to a stop. Its not street friendly yet but i hope to get it that way soon, afterall, it was fine sittign infront of a c6 so i cant figure out what to do next. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #54 – August 11, 2006, 05:51:57 PM Advancing the timing will increase the vacuum, what cam is in the engine??? A performance cam will not be EFI friendly. Time to check the vacuum on this puppy. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #55 – August 12, 2006, 01:37:04 PM cam lift is .496intake and .520exhaust blue racer. I will go out now and pull the vacuum presure and see what it is.My primary question is the comparrison of how good the engine ran sitting in front of a c6 with a carb/duraspark dizzy. Now it sits in front of a c4 with eeciv system.I am only running a tps/tfi dizzy/ injectors just like it was with my V6 which ran fine.is the torque converter my issue? Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #56 – August 13, 2006, 10:12:40 AM Scott I'm gonna have come up to WV and beat you over the head with a cam(guess your lucky I gave my last old one to the s guy the other day)... With the EFI system, unless the engine will IDLE at least 16"-18" of vac @ 600/700 rpm it will NEVER idle without problems. To prove this use a hand vac pump and pull 18"-20" of vac on the MAP sensor, it should idle if you don't have other issues. The converter has nothing to do with it(assuming it's not defective). Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #57 – August 13, 2006, 11:35:15 AM Quote from: TurboCoupe50Scott I'm gonna have come up to WV and beat you over the head with a cam. that might hurt:D i need to swap in a computer from a v8,,, ive been looking at the evtm on the v6 / v8 cfi eec and the pinouts from the tfi cable out the same on both computers so i thought the v6/v8 eec were interchangeable.i , once upon a time, installed a v8 eec in the coug when the v6 engine was in and it ran fine. maybe it wont work visa versa like i have it. i tried to check the vac presue but it was pointless. ill bet the eec is needing swapped. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #58 – August 13, 2006, 12:54:21 PM You can stick 40 Speed Densety EECs in it, it ain't gonna idle without decent vaccum...The Hot Rod guys figured that out 20 years ago... Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #59 – August 13, 2006, 10:35:09 PM Quote from: TurboCoupe50You can stick 40 Speed Densety EECs in it, it ain't gonna idle without decent vaccum...The Hot Rod guys figured that out 20 years ago...well isnt this just great,,, page 6 and this just gets brought up. Quote Selected
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