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how come the Mark VII's had a HO option, when the cougar/t-bird's only had a SO? and how come when there was the switch to the mn-12 chassis, the Mark VIII's had DOHC, when the cougar/t-birds SOHC? i'm just not sure why FoMoCo decided to give the lincolns that extra bit of power. and because of this, if same year cars raced(ex. 88 t-bird vs. 88 mark VII) would the mark win?
1988 Thunderbird sport
2004 Ford F150 Lariat
2008  Chevrolet Cobalt Sport
2007 Suzuki DR-Z400S dual sport/Supermoto
1988 Thunderbird LX - sold
1988 Mercury Cougar XR-7 with GST kit - gone

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Reply #1
The reason is very, very simple. Ever price up a new Lincoln compared to its Ford counterpart? When you're gonna charge 50% more for the same car it had better have something special. Sadly, Lincoln has forgotten that lately...
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Reply #2
What the hell motor is even in the LS's???

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Reply #3
3.9l V8.

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Reply #4
Yeah if I was paying for a Lincoln, I'd want a "good" engine in it too.

Besides, the Marks were performance luxury vehicles. Thunderbirds were geared more toward the luxury side. Plus the Thunderbird has always played second fiddle to the Mustang as far as the V8's go, Ford liked to explore their alternative engines (2.3 turbo, 3.8 SC) with the Thunderbird & cougar :dunno:

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Reply #5
3.9l V8 eeewww.  I could have sworn it would have at least been a V8 outta the newer T-bird.

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Reply #6
Quote from: DakotaEpic
3.9l V8 eeewww.  I could have sworn it would have at least been a V8 outta the newer T-bird.

The new T-birds do (did) have 3.9L's.

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Reply #7
My friend has an '00 Lincoln LS with the V8. I read that it has 252 ponies under the hood but I sure couldn't find them.
My '96 felt faster.
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Reply #8
Quote from: Ifixyawata
The new T-birds do (did) have 3.9L's.

I thought they had a 4.something motor that Ford uses in their Jags?

Oi, and who started the user bar trend on this site???

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Reply #9
I dunno, I know of one other person here that has one that says "Cougar Driver".

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Reply #10
the 3.9 is from jaguar

2002+ got 280 horses
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Reply #11
Quote from: bhazard
the 3.9 is from jaguar

2002+ got 280 horses


Its the Jag 4.0 de-stroked.  Sure Lincolns get better motors than Fords, but Jags get the best of the best. :giggle:

And yeah, the 280hp LS's with variable valve timing are animals.  Combined with the 5-speed auto they really fly.
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88 Cougar XR-7...5.0HO, T-56, and much more                             
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Reply #12
Quote from: Thunder Chicken
The reason is very, very simple. Ever price up a new Lincoln compared to its Ford counterpart? When you're gonna charge 50% more for the same car it had better have something special. Sadly, Lincoln has forgotten that lately...

 yea, this does make sence, if i were to pay that much more i would want to have that little something extra. and it is sad how FoMoCo  gets one car and sells the same exact thing 3 times, with the only difference being the car name and the company emblems. :shakehead
1988 Thunderbird sport
2004 Ford F150 Lariat
2008  Chevrolet Cobalt Sport
2007 Suzuki DR-Z400S dual sport/Supermoto
1988 Thunderbird LX - sold
1988 Mercury Cougar XR-7 with GST kit - gone

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Reply #13
Why didn't they put the HO in the Cougars and T-birds? Quite simple. They weighed less than a Mark VII and would have been quicker. How could Ford charge more for a car that was slower than a car that cost less and was almost comparably equiped?
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #14
People buy cars for its looks first, engine second. With a couple hundred thousand of our cars coming off a year, ford had nothing to worry about. And, we all did a double take the first time we saw our cars.

With that big of a selling point there was no need to trick us into it. THe stock engines arent the worst that could ever be put in these cars. Well maybe the 3.8.....

THe stock 5.0 is more then enough to get the car moving. We all have to admit that. Our cars are not sports cars, they are the compact boats of the age. And most boats are about the same speed or slower then ours.

Even thought are cars are mustangs, noone else will see it that way.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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