351c Woohoo

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Reply #15 – January 30, 2006, 08:27:22 PM

Put Cleveland heads on a Windsor block - best of both worlds (i guess)

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Reply #16 – January 30, 2006, 09:54:51 PM

I've heard that you can put Cleveland heads on a Windsor with a little help from the machine shop, but I'd rather not do that myself. I think the 351C is almost a perfect engine by its self. Doesn't need any help... my opinion though! lol

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Reply #17 – January 30, 2006, 11:24:29 PM

The cleveland block has coolant distribution oddities and not-so-competant oiling system, so I'm told. So, super badass cleveland heads on the more stable Windsor block would be the hot ticket. But this all speculation, because I dont think I've ever even seen a real Cleveland. Lots of 400's and M's though!

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Reply #18 – January 31, 2006, 12:39:19 AM

Put Cleveland heads on a Windsor block and you've got a Boss engine. The cooling passages need to be messed with but it can be done, there's actually a company that sells Cleveland heads pre-machined with Windsors in mind. Here's an article:
http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/30220/

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Reply #19 – January 31, 2006, 09:35:03 AM

The cleveland is a great motor but the technology in heads and cams now make unheard of power in the windsor blocks. The 302 i have from a 71 ford that i had rebuilt .030 over, adding Edelbrock RPM intake,600 cfm carb, a somewhat aggresive cam and the AFR heads w/ 1.90 intake and 1.60 exhaust is pulling just under the 360 hp with the stock rods and some good pistons (not forged). Depending if you have the 4v heads or the 2v heads with the cleveland, the 4v are not even close to what a guy wants for street and mild strip use because they make all there power way higher in the rpm range.The 2v head is way more practical for the street as the ports are not nearly as large and can produce more streetable torque. The 4v Cleveland is great for a strip car but not for the street.

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Reply #20 – January 31, 2006, 10:52:12 AM

Hearing "351 CLEVELAND" strikes fear in the heart of any chevy man.

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Reply #21 – January 31, 2006, 11:14:27 AM

Well i some what disagree, maybe 20 years ago there was some fear but times and technology have changed. Now they are expensive, hard to find and really IMHO not worth putting the serious money into when you can do so much to a windsor. They have a great rep that makes people worry, but when it gets right down to it they have block cracking problems among the other issues.

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Reply #22 – January 31, 2006, 12:04:37 PM

All I know is, when the engine was in my old flat bed Ford a few years ago, I thought it was just another engine. But when people asked what engine was in it and I would tell 'em, they would freak! They'd say something like, "You have a cleveland?!?!" After seeing that response more than once, when I decided to get rid of the truck, I pulled the engine out and kept it.

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Reply #23 – January 31, 2006, 01:57:11 PM

Quote from: CougarSE

Hmm throw a Cleveland together with readily available ebay parts and your tossing over 300hp on the table. Dude i would so do a Cleveland over a Windsor.

And for gods sake put that into your Tbird!

I dunno about that, my 420 HP 302 is doing fine I think throwing it in the ranchero is the better option.

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Reply #24 – January 31, 2006, 02:01:23 PM

And another thing noone said it was for a street car

and now I have 2 clevlands. I got the one and he gave me a second just to get rid of it....It doesnt run but it can with a little work. 1 in the ranchero the other in my sonoma or Bronco.

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Reply #25 – February 06, 2006, 04:55:47 PM

So which one is faster? cleveland or windsor? And does anyone know where to find either one like a website or something?

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Reply #26 – February 06, 2006, 08:03:34 PM

Quote from: DreWRoolZ

So which one is faster? cleveland or windsor? And does anyone know where to find either one like a website or something?

Hmm wow thats a chicken or the egg question!

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Reply #27 – February 06, 2006, 08:11:15 PM

not trying to steel your thread,but my brothers 351c in progress.

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Reply #28 – February 10, 2006, 09:45:36 PM

Quote from: t-bird85

I dunno about that, my 420 HP 302 is doing fine I think throwing it in the ranchero is the better option.

What did you do to your 302 to get it to 420 hp?
And how come all the cleveland i've seen are carbeurated? I personally prefer fuel injection..

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Reply #29 – February 10, 2006, 10:14:24 PM

clevelands were all carbed, there 70's or earlier motor's. Before fuel injection.