Pick up coil bad maybe?

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Pick up coil bad maybe?

September 03, 2014, 04:47:36 AM

So my car has been giving me issues. random dying off and cutting out. several times it wouldn't restart after it dies.

so started by replacing the ignition coil and that worked for about a week, then starter had went bad so replaced it,the fuel filter and tfi since i had seen in another thread that they will cause it to randomly die off.

well it ran ok for about 3 blocks and died again, brother was behind me so check that fuel pump was making noise and then checked and started after messing with coil wire, so ended up getting a set of accel spark plug wires. next day I leave to head to college and as soon as I go to hit the highway it dies on me. Starts back up fine but as I'm driving it starts cutting out. im doing 65-70 mph and rpms were dropping to half or almost nothing. I finally decide to turn around and as i do it dies and wont restart.

After a little bit it starts again and I limp it home, it seemed to be running ok though. Well after I got back and had my brother look at it it wasnt getting spark again. Decided the Masterpro (masterblow) coil looked like it was getting hot so decided to replace it again but with an accel one. Went to my afternoon class and it ran fine.

Well after class I go to start it, it fires right up but after running a couple minutes it dies. when i go to restart it. it seems like its spinning pretty fast and vibrating more then normal, but wont start. So went and ate dinner. When I get back it starts but dies again, wait a bit and it starts. So decided to go ahead and go. get a few blocks down the road and dies on me again.

So after looking a bit I ordered a distributor last night thinking it might be the pick up coil. also though the tfi I bought was masterpro, debating on replacing it also but idk what name brand to replace it with, heck the original mastercraft might have not even been bad but it looked old lol. Any help is greatly appreciated,sorry for the long story.

Pick up coil bad maybe?

Reply #1 – September 03, 2014, 05:20:18 AM

I hate replacing parts for no reason. Follow this start to finish and you will have your issue pin pointed. If you have a no start on starting fluid, then it has to be electronic.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=rdwGVN7OHIK3iwKemYGQBA&url=http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,588.0.html&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAA&usg=AFQjCNG82xHeqRH5DWa1m_wj3YYx4ZQdEg&sig2=9FpHGi0evYlKXp3ngVws_Q

Pick up coil bad maybe?

Reply #2 – September 03, 2014, 05:22:35 AM

A bad pip will give you a code sometimes, but use a test light on your injectors and you will know.

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Reply #3 – September 03, 2014, 06:44:14 AM

No spark most likely DIZZY PIP and Module is normally the culprit. I always change them in pairs.

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Reply #4 – September 03, 2014, 10:33:30 AM

I havent ran scanner for codes but cel isnt on. what name brand of tfi is safe to buy? the one I have on it now is masterpro and I don't trust it. heck if pickup was bad the mastercraft tfi that was on it may not have been bad.

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Reply #5 – September 03, 2014, 11:15:28 AM

Your wasting your time by not running codes. It takes 5 minutes with a paper clip. Fix your car or dont, I dont care. Youve been given good advice.

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Reply #6 – September 03, 2014, 12:25:30 PM

i will check when i get a moment to

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Reply #7 – September 03, 2014, 12:42:13 PM

Codes takes 5 mins, the no start procedure I posted takes about 10. Let us know if you need help or anything explained. Best of luck.

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Reply #8 – September 03, 2014, 07:59:14 PM

Ignition issues do not normally set codes on this type of system. Especially intermittent ones. But go ahead and read them . Go to ford and buy the PIP and TFI module.

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Reply #9 – September 03, 2014, 09:53:09 PM

did run codes cause cel hasnt been on at all, but via the pic do u think the pickup coil is bad? lol. so far it's running fine and even drove it a few miles and got it pretty hot to check. I had the new tfi that i had gotten checked and it was ok so ill keep it in the trunk cause i bought another one that was duralast just to be safe

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Reply #10 – September 03, 2014, 11:07:40 PM

Ive gotten an erratic pip signal code before.

s your money, spend all you want. Maybe it will fix it maybe it wont. Alittle trouble shooting goes a long ways...

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Reply #11 – September 04, 2014, 05:39:36 AM

PIP signal error is something the ECM has a hard time to set. In my experience far and in-between a PIP code will set but when i drive an effected car it is quite clear when there is no spark. Hint the car does not run. have a great day guys.

Note on an intermittent trouble and for 60 bucks it is cheap insurance to change both components in these situations. He lost spark. That is a direct relationship between the PIP and TFI. So on we go. Or he had a dirty set of contacts and replacing the TFI cleaned them. bad connections are sometimes repaired by just changing components that burnish the contacts. Thanks Tom

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Reply #12 – September 04, 2014, 07:56:25 PM

I think it had a little bit of issues with everything lol.

thx haystack for the link I will put it to great use next time, we had already done most of it previously. just hadnt checked codes cause i didnt have scanner handy but wasnt getting a light either.

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Reply #13 – September 04, 2014, 09:20:02 PM

You only need a paper clip or a peice of wire to run codes if you have a check engine light, or a buttstuffog meter/test light if you dont.