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TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #30
Quote from: thunderjet302;433757
Doesn't look to be overheating to me. It's probably a gauge problem. If the hoses are firm after it warms up and the overflow isn't full and puking coolant the car is more than likely not overheating.

This. Put a quality gauge in it and quit chasing ghosts.
...and there was light!

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #31
Like I said, mine sits in that area frequently. It's only if it starts to get into the actual red zone that I start to worry.
--Steve
[thread=28690]1988 Cougar V6[/thread]
2012 F-150 3.7L
2011 Mustang 3.7L

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #32
Quote from: T-BirdX3;433760
This. Put a quality gauge in it and quit chasing ghosts.

we are troubleshooting, not chasing stuff

we verified with a tool its not over heating.
we added a radiator cap today that has a integrated temp needle/gauge.
We stopped by the ford dealer to obtain a section of 8.5 ohm resistance wire to replace the existing yet ist no longer available.
we will tomorrow verify if i do have 5v arriving at the ivr input and if so, its easy enough from there.
we confirmed today that *IF THE HEADLAMPS* are turned on, this for some reason causes the needle to climb ever so slightly more up into the lower part of the red.
We confirmed turning off the headlamps causes the needle to drop a tad down to the lower part of the letter N.


we would like to fix the problem,, if possible. 

its my understanding that the 96 taurus has a sold state voltage regulator, that would duplicate the specs we need and allow us to omitt the resistance wire....
this may end up being the mod we need to do because the dealer mentioned this was the last known most reliable regulated voltage system just prior to digital programed clusters.

we have *not* performed the slave realy mod for IGN & ACCY yet on this car so it may be as simple as a new ignition switch.
I see the Large Gray/yellow wire is still plugged into the ign sw along with the parallel gray resistance wire which we repaired a couple years ago because of this
same type of problem... ultimatly is the reason we omitted the efan to reduce the probable faults for my son to troubleshoot by going back to a fan clutch.

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #33
i am thinking that an 8ohm speaker coil would duplicate the resistance wire i need, ... will play around tomorrow, perhaps i can omit the resistance wire completely and sub with a sol 20awg wire with the in series speaker coil,, i just worry about the correct wattage and oem design parameters matching closely enough.

we will see tomorrow.


TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #35
Quote from: jcassity;433793
here is a pic of the rad cap we bought

That is a super practical and very cool add on.  Really like that.....who makes it?








1983 FORD THUNDERBIRD HERITAGE 5.0
2008 SAAB 9-7X AERO 6.0 (LS2) 1 0f 554 Made
2011 FORD FLEX SEL Family Hauler

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #36
Yeah, that's swell. I want one too!
CoogarXR : 1985 Cougar XR-7

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #37
Quote from: jcassity;433793
here is a pic of the rad cap we bought

It's fine with the 195* thermostat. Actually running really nice at right around 200*. Now you just have to fix the temperature gauge :).
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #38
we just pulled the cap it off the shelf at advance auto parts.

be warned , it feels and looks twice as tall as your regular one,,  for a moment i was certain it would not fit but it did.

atleast now i know how to calibrate the guage when my son gets home.  we can now attempt to "make" the needle at its highest point indicate 230deg, making the middle about 180.

i have to confirm that only the gas and temp gauges are tied to the IVR though.  for some reason i think the 88 may be different, gotta check the 88 evtm

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #39
Is that a "Mr. Gasket" logo I see? I would love to get one of these caps for every vehicle I own! Good luck on your repair. It seems like you are on the right track.

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #40
yes, Mr Gasket Thermo cap,,
i think it was like 27$

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #41



My 87 last summer at the end of a 45 mile drive. killed the ignition for 30 seconds then took the second picture.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #42
84mph in Park ehh?  Pretty slick.  I like how both your fuel and temp gauge are pegged, Id see what they both share, maybe that nifty resistor coming off the ignition switch???
Love Foxes, Birds or Stangs.

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #43
84Kph in 1st gear, about 15-20mph.

Car has a stick shift and oss reads 4 times too high. kph wraps the speedo quicker as 6kph = an actual 1mph speed. 35-75 mph read 85 in standard. switching to metric gives me numbers to look at when driving.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

TC nose on sport and 5.0 temp needle high

Reply #44
Well....................
I worked too hard all day, was kinda hoping to come on here, relax with a beer, and read that it was all fixed.
Love Foxes, Birds or Stangs.