Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel December 23, 2013, 11:57:57 AM I am in the beginning stages of looking for a true solenoid actuator... doing a little reading, doing a little learning and such before hand.Anyone wanna work on this with me? It really would "harden" our existing actuators and lifespan.looking at one link below with various options.considerations:~must have ability to move all the mechanicals of the door locking system~must fit in the area of the existing actuator~must be 12v ~must be able to handle the force requried to pull or push~must be Nema 3R rated or equivilant~must be under 30$ each~must be quality built and consideration to cost would waive the above target value.~must not be made in china, preference not in any exact order>>=made in USA/Canada/Mexico/Germany~~open to recommendations from Trinom being he has visiblity on good quality products on the other side of the world, his input is valuabe and trusted.Given:~mounting would be fabricted or dreamed up by the installer by attempting to use the existing actuator pivit bracket assembly.Here is a link to a site i found today... sorta like a starter shopping guidehttp://www.jameco.com/Jameco/catalogs/c133/P86.pdfI would like to discuss pn 215141,,, has a pretty decent metal end that looks like it can accept a rod on its actuator nose.,, it is however 24vPN 2177555 looks to be the 12v variety of the above, has a longer stroke and is physically a tad shorter. Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #1 – January 04, 2014, 04:11:13 PM Here are a couple of pictures of some door lock actuators I have taken apartOne shows the connector removed and how it integrates the DC motor brushesThe other photograph shows the actuator itself and how it is dependent on the three tiny BBs and the retainer and clip in order to function properly Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #2 – January 04, 2014, 08:28:34 PM Help me understand what the goal and purpose is? I've personally never had any problems with the OEM actuators. Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #3 – January 04, 2014, 09:48:03 PM the goal is the same as in post 1, replace the actuators with true solenoids instead of the DC motors. Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #4 – January 05, 2014, 01:58:24 AM Do you know if they make a solenoid that can be powered in both directions? Seems to me it would have to have two coils on the same armature. One to move it in the lock direction and the other to move it in the unlock direction. Usually they are powered in one direction and spring returned to the static position. I suppose you could use two separate solenoids that do not have a built-in spring return. Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #5 – January 05, 2014, 08:56:57 AM just flip the polarity Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #6 – January 05, 2014, 01:05:32 PM Quote from: jcassity;426783just flip the polarityHave you tried that? Thought the armature tries to center itself in the flux field of the coilrather than magnetic poles attracting or repelling. Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #7 – January 05, 2014, 03:46:12 PM It does,,, until one ships to me ,, actually a couple, i wont be able to speculate where to put the Force spring to oppose the polarity switching concept.i wanna keep this simple. Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #8 – January 05, 2014, 04:56:30 PM hmmm,,looks like the product already exists.........................http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Relays-Contactors-Solenoids/Electromechanical-Solenoids/12-VDC-POWER-DOOR-LOCK-PUSH-PULL-SOLENOID-11-3346.axd Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #9 – January 05, 2014, 05:34:34 PM looks like these guys are out of ohiohttp://www.ledex.com/linear-solenoids/sta-tublar-solenoids.html Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #10 – January 05, 2014, 06:22:23 PM That first one only has a travel of .865 inches, I don't think that's enough to fully lock and unlock our doors. Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #11 – January 08, 2014, 01:10:24 PM Quote from: jcassity;426820hmmm,,looks like the product already exists.........................http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Relays-Contactors-Solenoids/Electromechanical-Solenoids/12-VDC-POWER-DOOR-LOCK-PUSH-PULL-SOLENOID-11-3346.axdCan't see how this one could be a solenoid with the coil perpendicular to the armature. Probably a motor with a rack and pinion gear arrangement.Good price though. Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #12 – January 09, 2014, 09:56:27 AM i couldnt find a spec sheet, ... customer service person was kinda "techy",, he said yup its a solenoid.i was skeptical like you cause right off the bat it was just too skinny Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #13 – January 09, 2014, 01:20:05 PM Here is one that looks the same and they call it a motor.http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Power-Door-Lock-Actuator/dp/B0043G5UM0 Quote Selected
Door Lock actuators ~re-inventing the wheel Reply #14 – January 16, 2014, 02:10:30 PM Quote from: jcassity;426126~must not be made in china, preference not in any exact order>>=made in USA/Canada/Mexico/Germany~~open to recommendations from Trinom being he has visiblity on good quality products on the other side of the world, his input is valuabe and trusted.I think, that quality chinese products shouldn't be overlooked. Don't forget, that most of this stuff is made there and my experience is, that if you ignore the cheapest pieces, they are pretty good.I'm going to look, which actuators are used in european cars and if they are somehow compatible with our old Ford actuators. Quote Selected
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