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Fell Off The Chart, oh oh!

While at Walmart today, I decided to buy a couple oil filters...Purolators in this case.  While I usually know what one to buy, I was lost on numbers today, so I consulted the "Book".  Was somewhat shocked to see the Ford vehicle list now begins at 1994!!  It was still OK to pick the filter because the Mrs. reminded me that a '97 Taurus I work on has the same filter (as I had told her in the past), whew.  And Ford continued the 5.0 engine on their pickups, so you can check those for later years after 1988. 

JR

Fell Off The Chart, oh oh!

Reply #1 –
Motorcraft FL-1A is the only number you need to know for a 5.0 oil filter.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #2 –
I went to O'reilly Auto Parts and they had an electronic gizmo set up and the same thing happened to me. Being I was in a parts store, I just told the guy at the counter what I needed and he had to look it up (more work for them). As long as they keep making parts for my car, I'm good.

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Reply #3 –
Mountaineers (and Explorers) take a different filter....but yes, FL1A is one of many things I will never forget. I can think being somewhat autistic for that...phone numbers, names, dates, and people's birthdays I can remember very well.

Anyway, yes, most places don't worry about stuff that's older than 10-12 years or so. Sucks.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #4 –
FRAM is a PH8A and the short filter is a PH16 OR PH43
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #5 –
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;413707
Mountaineers (and Explorers) take a different filter....

FL-820S

I know it well. ;)

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Reply #6 –
Quote from: TOM Renzo;413710
FRAM is a PH8A and the short filter is a PH16 OR PH43
Fram is a shaging joke, and you being a mechanic by trade should know much better than to even mention them.
;)
 
Quote from: EricCoolCats;413712
FL-820S

I know it well. ;)

Yes sir, as do I
(Off topic, what year Mounty is yours? I've a '97, but when I'm done, it's going to look like a '98+....)
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #7 –
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No one said i use FRAM because i dont.

I listed the numbers as a cross over.

Seems like my feelings about attitudes are correct.

I mentioned a bunch of numbers to help cross reference and you go off the deep end.

Anyone that knows FORDS knows a Number ONE filter is or was there primary FILTER. I use the FL1 on GM conversions and remote filters. I stock cases of them.

But it just might be a good idea to find out what the OE uses and who makes the filters!!! You might be shocked to find out how many dealers are selling OE FILTERS that are fram

Just for the record as an information issue NAPA FILTERS ARE MADE BY WIX

I like BALDWIN and WIX.

Motorcraft is a PURIOLATOR

I dont know if the manufacturers changed vendors recently  BUT SUBARU IS A FRAM

NOTE i have never personally seen a FRAM filter FAIL. I did see a PH16 spew out glue in a VOLVO engine years back. But there are MILLIONS of cars and trucks that use FRAM. Not my choice.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #8 –
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;413745
(Off topic, what year Mounty is yours? I've a '97, but when I'm done, it's going to look like a '98+....)

Mine is a '98. Still soldiering on at 156K+ although it's starting to need a lot of stuff and, of course, there's more body rot than I care to have. Thinking about getting something else.

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Reply #9 –
Quote from: TOM Renzo;413769
302
No one said i use FRAM because i dont.


NOTE i have never personally seen a FRAM filter FAIL. I did see a PH16 spew out glue in a VOLVO engine years back. But there are MILLIONS of cars and trucks that use FRAM. Not my choice.

And you probably won't see one fail... I used them on the old '93 Grand Marquis cause they came with some oil change specials I bought, no issues at all... A friend still has that car and it's approaching 200K mi, runs almost like new...

One filter I'll no longer use is a Purolator Classic, had engine knock in a 26K mi 4.6 at every cold start, never did so prior or since using the Pure One or Motorcraft...

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Reply #10 –
The VOLVO issue was investigated by a FRAM REP. The car was not damaged because of the GLUE. It all came out when i removed the filter. It was like a long string of excessive glue. Fram corrected the over glue issue years ago.  The rep  sent me 4 cases of PH16 Filters i used them all up. As i said i never seen one fail. And millions of Fram filters roam out highways. Purolator filters had a restriction issue years ago but corrected it by adding more pleats. So i do agree with 50 on that issue  Like i said i like Baldwin and NAPA which is a WIX.  Basically there is only a few filter companies and they build for several different name brands. That is another reason i do not have dip sticks in my performance engines!! Just saying!!
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #12 –
50 i am with you on the classic. That filter was very restrictive. And not a very good design. The valve was also not a very good design as it worked like . I found a high restrictive issues with those early filters. Once again millions of FRAM filters roam the roads of this planet with no issues.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Fell Off The Chart, oh oh!

Reply #13 –
Quote from: TOM Renzo;413769
302
No one said i use FRAM because i dont.

I listed the numbers as a cross over.

Seems like my feelings about attitudes are correct.

I mentioned a bunch of numbers to help cross reference and you go off the deep end.

Anyone that knows FORDS knows a Number ONE filter is or was there primary FILTER. I use the FL1 on GM conversions and remote filters. I stock cases of them.

But it just might be a good idea to find out what the OE uses and who makes the filters!!! You might be shocked to find out how many dealers are selling OE FILTERS that are fram

Just for the record as an information issue NAPA FILTERS ARE MADE BY WIX

I like BALDWIN and WIX.

Motorcraft is a PURIOLATOR

I dont know if the manufacturers changed vendors recently  BUT SUBARU IS A FRAM

NOTE i have never personally seen a FRAM filter FAIL. I did see a PH16 spew out glue in a VOLVO engine years back. But there are MILLIONS of cars and trucks that use FRAM. Not my choice.

First off, I didn;t go off the deep end, far from it, in fact.
Secondly, I personally have seen a Fram burst, albeit on a Ford 3000 SU tractor.
Attitude? You've little room to speak of that.

I use Motorcraft on my Fords, Delco on the Chevy stuff. I know that Purolator makes filters branded Motorcraft, not sure who does Delco stuff, but if you cut one open, you can  sure tell it ain't Fram.

And if a dealer uses Fram filters, I'd sure as hell stop going there.

And, check the first 23 seconds of this video.

And THIS.

And THIS, too.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #14 –
My primary ride is a GM product and at the dealer (and on all the shelves now, unfortunately) they use AC Delco that start with and E- before the filter number.  This represents E-core design and to me looks cheap as hell!!