A couple quick questions. August 21, 2012, 03:46:00 PM 1. My Hayne's manual says to jack up the engine to remove the oil pan, but it doesn't say where to put the jack. Only place I see is under the harmonic balancer......2. How many quarts of transmission fluid does my AOD transmission take? (1986 Cougar 5.0 engine w/automatic transmission) Thanks! Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #1 – August 21, 2012, 03:57:10 PM When I jack up an engine, I take the mounts loose and then place the Jack under the bell housing of the transmission. Then lift the engine carefully as high as it will allow. Remember to open your hood first ;-) Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #2 – August 21, 2012, 04:36:23 PM Yikes! I am not sure that jacking up the engines weight using the aluminum bell housing is the best idea...I would probably advise jacking up the engine using the oil pan and then placing a padded jack stand under the crank snout before removing the jack. Another possibility would be to place wooden blocks between the k member and the motor mounts. Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #3 – August 21, 2012, 05:10:29 PM Problem is I'm trying to remove the oil pan so I need to find another way to support the engine. Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #4 – August 21, 2012, 06:13:06 PM Quote from: 86cougar;396383Problem is I'm trying to remove the oil pan so I need to find another way to support the engine. Which is exactly why I said "...before removing the jack." Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #5 – August 21, 2012, 07:17:36 PM Removing the pan while the engine is in our cars is a miserable undertaking. The double hump pan requires the engine to be quite high to clear the oil pump pick up. Getting it high enough can be difficult due to the transhiznitting the trans tunnel. If you are determined to try it, get a cherry picker to raise the engine. This will not only eliminate the need for a jack, but will make it easier to pull the engine the rest of the way out to actually complete the job. It's pretty likely you'll come to that determination (that pulling the engine is easier), after stuggling a few hours and finding yourself filthy, tired, frustrated and really pissed off. And that's just what it's like getting the pan out. Then you have to get it back in AND not screw up the gasket!Hope it goes well for you! Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #6 – August 21, 2012, 08:12:48 PM X eleventy-million.17 on complete engine removal. trust me, it's easy, and only a bit more work than to merely raise the engine enough to get the pan totally out, and in again.If I have my tools laid out in an orderly fashion, I bet I could have my engine (and trans) out 2 hours, max. That's driving it in, and getting to it. And no, I'm not kidding. I'm just that familiar with things.My point is....you'll be much happier if you just rent a cherry picker and do it that way. Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #7 – August 21, 2012, 08:33:12 PM I'd pull the whole thing if I had to change the pan Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #8 – August 21, 2012, 08:42:39 PM Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;396396If I have my tools laid out in an orderly fashion, I bet I could have my engine (and trans) out 2 hours, max. That's driving it in, and getting to it. And no, I'm not kidding. I'm just that familiar with things. Now, there's a man with experience!My engine is on the floor right now after fixing the oil leak... Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #9 – August 21, 2012, 08:50:03 PM If I had the time and option of pulling the motor, I would too. It would also allow for cleaning the engine compartment, engine and taking care of any other leaks, puddles and drips. Of course, pulling the motor might not be an option for the OP, either due to time, fiscal constraints, lack of experience or lack of equipment. Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #10 – August 21, 2012, 08:51:04 PM Quote from: Crazy88;396382Yikes! I am not sure that jacking up the engines weight using the aluminum bell housing is the best idea...I would probably advise jacking up the engine using the oil pan and then placing a padded jack stand under the crank snout before removing the jack. Another possibility would be to place wooden blocks between the k member and the motor mounts. you would rather support the engine by the crank shaft? I have used my method several times on several cars with no problems. I also changed the oil pan gasket on my 88 bird 5.0 with the engine in the car using this method, the one piece felpro rubber pan gasket is your best friend when doing this with the engine in the car. Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #11 – August 21, 2012, 10:21:21 PM If you pull the engine, you could also pull and drain the torque converter and all of your trans fluid would be fresh and new. Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #12 – August 21, 2012, 11:02:17 PM I figure I will be pulling the engine soon enough when I have to replace this one. I don't want to support the weight of the engine on the crank. So tomorrow, what I will look at is making a cradle out of wood for my bell housing to spread the pressure. Manual says I need to reach in and remove the oil pump and pick up tube fasteners then drop them in the pan (no clue). That should be all that's left. Thanks! Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #13 – August 22, 2012, 08:40:55 AM Quote from: 86cougar;396428I figure I will be pulling the engine soon enough when I have to replace this one. I don't want to support the weight of the engine on the crank. So tomorrow, what I will look at is making a cradle out of wood for my bell housing to spread the pressure. Manual says I need to reach in and remove the oil pump and pick up tube fasteners then drop them in the pan (no clue). That should be all that's left. Thanks! Honestly, I don't see a problem with that. Bell housing should hold up fine, as long as you don't keep cranking on the jack after everything hits the firewall and undercarage. I was just giving you an idea if you went the engine pulling route. Quote Selected
A couple quick questions. Reply #14 – August 22, 2012, 10:15:12 AM Quote from: 86cougar;396428I figure I will be pulling the engine soon enough when I have to replace this one. I don't want to support the weight of the engine on the crank. So tomorrow, what I will look at is making a cradle out of wood for my bell housing to spread the pressure. Manual says I need to reach in and remove the oil pump and pick up tube fasteners then drop them in the pan (no clue). That should be all that's left. Thanks! Removing the oil pump and pickup gives you more room to remove the pan. Done this several times on my old Mustang. Quote Selected
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