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Reply #15 – December 31, 2011, 02:16:21 PM

That's right Haystack. I forgot about Edelbrock making those intakes recently. They are kind of pricy though.

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Reply #16 – December 31, 2011, 04:32:20 PM

pics shown below for your review

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Reply #17 – December 31, 2011, 04:34:57 PM

and more pics

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Reply #18 – December 31, 2011, 04:36:25 PM

and some more ,, i had three pics at a time picture limit

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Reply #19 – December 31, 2011, 04:37:29 PM

last one to look over

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Reply #20 – December 31, 2011, 04:52:44 PM

I don't know how to tell which one is which, but I did want to point out that there is a fuel injected intake now made by trickflow, for a 351 clevor. It would be a lot of fun to do a 418 strocker with clevland sized mains. You would get a basically 400 block with clevland mains, clevveland heads and widsoor block and oiling system, with fuel injection.

Too bad they haven't made a lower for the 302 injected. Guess you could do the victor jr lower, it should at least have the bungs cast in, you would just have to drill and tap them yourself. I would be all over a trick flow stock replacement lower for the 302 clevor.

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Reply #21 – January 01, 2012, 01:19:30 AM

any thoughts on the pics?

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Reply #22 – January 01, 2012, 02:27:51 AM

If it was me, I'd nab the heads, and sell or s the rest, depending on what I'd have to pay for 'em.

Nothing special about a 351/400m, and most folks I know of that build Fords refer to 'em as boat anchors...

I was about to buy a '77 F-150 in 2004, the seller told me he'd just put a newly rebuilt 400 in it, and it had less than 3500 miles on it since the install/rebuild....
I told him my plan was to replace the M engine with a 460 and put mud tires on it and use it for a mud running truck.

He decided to keep the truck...in fact, I saw it parked at wal mart a coupla weeks ago...he STILL has it lol.

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Reply #23 – January 01, 2012, 11:34:23 AM

It's a 400 engine and it has the big block bell housing pattern. The heads are basically the same as a 351C 2V if that is what you are interested in.

A 400 can be made to be a very good running piece. I have tinkered with a few in trucks and have even run one in a street stock dirt track car in the eighties. They are not as bad as some make them out to be. The 400 in my 77 F-150 was a very torquey engine after a few mods. The one in my street stock had 4V Cleveland heads and a 4 barrel carb.

I was surprised to see Trick Flow produce a fuel injection intake for their Cleveland heads.

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Reply #24 – January 01, 2012, 12:49:34 PM

i love the modified motors, they're like the 4.9 I6.. packed full of torque, but on a much larger scale.. they just have super sucky stock bottom ends, but with a little work, you can get them to turn 6k rpms like a smallblock.. i've owned 2 and had my hands in 1 other, all in all, i can't say anything bad about them, except when the *knock knock knock knock* comes to visit

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Reply #25 – January 01, 2012, 01:49:48 PM

Every one of 'em that I've seen used has either had timing set failures, oil starvation issues, or both.

I'm not saying they're worthless...but, they don't seem to last very long if gouged on and still in a stock configuration.

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Reply #26 – January 01, 2012, 01:57:26 PM

stock 351M/400's definitely suck without modification, there's no question about that

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Reply #27 – January 01, 2012, 02:02:40 PM

From my experience with the 351M/400 the crank journal sizes were always on the big side. The main & rod clearances end up being .001 or less. This left very little room for overheating or sludge issues. I had to have the crank machined for more clearance for the engine I ran in my street stock race car. I needed .002 to .025 for that application. The dreaded nylon on the cam gear was not a very good idea. It usually ended up in the oil pan restricting oil flow through the pick up.

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Reply #28 – January 01, 2012, 02:04:21 PM

hey fordracer, i see you're in harrisburg.. what track did you run?

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Reply #29 – January 01, 2012, 02:19:47 PM

I raced at Selinsgrove Speedway and Port Royal Speedway in my street stock in the 80s. I raced at Lincoln speedway in a thunder car 2002 - 2004. I have also helped out on cars at Silver Springs and Port Royal Speedway in the 90s.