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installing the system in the mark 8

well starting it anyway..

it won't be finished  for a little while.

this is where i started.


first i build a new panel for the 12"s

then this..:D

it used to be this..
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6077831&CatId=12

i'm installing a carputer i'm just not sure which processor to use i have a couple, 3 gig p4 processor or 3gig dual core.. with a a$$ load of ram. and it will have internet allso :D just have to buy a few more things like , PSU and sound card, oh and the a$$ load of ram;)


stay tuned

Nick
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there's only about a half a dozen man made objects that are herd by the human ear below 40Hz,a pipe organ,thunder,the space shuttle lifting off,a jet airplane taking off or landing,a large canon,an atomic bomb ignited in your back yard and the heat wave afterward oh wait you would be dead so you would'nt hear it scratch that!,and maybe beating your hear against a wall less then 40 times a second..rap music is'nt one of them!thats 40-60Hz@100+db the moving air is under 40Hz

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Reply #1 –
just a teaser i redid the monitor in the dash.

i had to take the picture with my phone i have to get another digital camera..

i used this motherboard for my carputer

http://www.mini-box.com/D510MO-mini-ITX-Intel

and this power supply

http://www.mini-box.com/M4-ATX?sc=8&category=981

the carputer has a 2gig stick of ram

40gig 2.5 drive for the OS

and a 500gig for the full copys of the dvd's i have, and for music

how about this i used the factory CD changer for the computer case;)

oh and like i said i have internet in the car :D sprint 3g

Nick
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there's only about a half a dozen man made objects that are herd by the human ear below 40Hz,a pipe organ,thunder,the space shuttle lifting off,a jet airplane taking off or landing,a large canon,an atomic bomb ignited in your back yard and the heat wave afterward oh wait you would be dead so you would'nt hear it scratch that!,and maybe beating your hear against a wall less then 40 times a second..rap music is'nt one of them!thats 40-60Hz@100+db the moving air is under 40Hz

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Looking good - car pc's > everything. I'm against the Atoms though as they consume no less power at equal performance levels versus the Core CPU's and aren't much cheaper either. 13W dual core atom that performs on par with its two cores as a Core Solo 's single core at 1.3GHz and only 5W TDP (plus 2.5W for the external northbridge/video chipset).

So what all are you going to run off of it? Just music, movies, navigation, and internet? I'd like to find a higher resolution 8" 4:3 ratio screen (not 800x600) for the Tbird's dash but it's unlikely to ever happen. The 4.5" 1024x600 screen in my UMPC is leaps and bounds better in every way than the "top of the line" 7" 800x480 screen that one can buy :(
1988 Thunderbird Sport

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Reply #3 –
That's a smooth looking install!

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Reply #4 –
Quote from: Seek;335848
Looking good - car pc's > everything. I'm against the Atoms though as they consume no less power at equal performance levels versus the Core CPU's and aren't much cheaper either. 13W dual core atom that performs on par with its two cores as a Core Solo 's single core at 1.3GHz and only 5W TDP (plus 2.5W for the external northbridge/video chipset).

So what all are you going to run off of it? Just music, movies, navigation, and internet? I'd like to find a higher resolution 8" 4:3 ratio screen (not 800x600) for the Tbird's dash but it's unlikely to ever happen. The 4.5" 1024x600 screen in my UMPC is leaps and bounds better in every way than the "top of the line" 7" 800x480 screen that one can buy :(


ya i was going to run a dual core 775 socket but i went with the atom for a few  reasons
1, fit better in the factory cd changer case
2, it doe's drain less power then a dual core mini atx about 100 watts less. the atom board maxed out will drain about 80 to 100 watts. a dual core 775 socket mini atx will drain about 150 to 200 watts.not that the power supply i bought could'nt handle it  but in the end your looking at somewhere between 4-8 amps 10amps max vs 16-20amps and around 24amps max.
the lincoln factory cooling fan drains like 40amps on it's own.
3, i did'nt like the way aftermarket radios looked in the dash i have the old setup i had in the cougar but aftermarket radios stick out past the trim and over the trim.. yuck!
4, now i don't have to tote around a bunch of DVD's and CD's. they are all on the hard drive no rips in the sense audio compression, full clones.

and yes it's being used mostly for music DVD's for live concerts and CD's and sometimes the internet.



Quote from: Watchdevil;335850
That's a smooth looking install!


thank you
i don't get a lot of compliments on this message board on my audio video and installation skills.
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there's only about a half a dozen man made objects that are herd by the human ear below 40Hz,a pipe organ,thunder,the space shuttle lifting off,a jet airplane taking off or landing,a large canon,an atomic bomb ignited in your back yard and the heat wave afterward oh wait you would be dead so you would'nt hear it scratch that!,and maybe beating your hear against a wall less then 40 times a second..rap music is'nt one of them!thats 40-60Hz@100+db the moving air is under 40Hz

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Cool, I like the desktop wallpaper thats a nice touch!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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Reply #6 –
very awesome!  I'd love to put a pc setup like that in.  Very well done.
84 TC 302 -5.0L/t5/7.5 locking rear and a 3.45 gear, Edelbrock Intake, Aluminum Heads, Edlebrock 65mm Throttlebody, Edlebrock Cam, 24lb injectors & MAS Air Sensor calibrated via chip,  BBK headers, Catback H pipe, Magnaflow lers :evilgrin:
:pics-stfu:

 Project Thread with pics

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Just a note - my E8400 system draws like 60-70W max when running IntelBurnTest and Furmark on a Geforce 9300-installed motherboard. This was with 2GB of RAM (much lower sleep power draw then going all out with 4GB). The system has one fan, a DC-DC power supply, a SSD, and a 2.5" 5400rpm hard drive. Running the system underclocked at 900MHz (closer to the performance of the Atoms at 1.6, but still better for multimedia), the system drew somewhere around 30-35W loaded down with the same utilities. My motherboard doesn't undervolt but if it did, I may have been able to shave another 5W off the system, if that. Idle with the E8400 stock was around 20W and FSB overclocked (don't remember the speed) idled around 25W.

I think your numbers are way off as this was checked with a 13.8V power supply and three different ammeters, starting with a shunk and ending with a Fluke multimeter when I found that the power draw was next to nothing.

I should add that you DO have to add conversions if you're going from DC to AC and back - add like 30% for both conversions, total. The above numbers do not include the 8W LCD screen that brought the system up more but I didn't care as I was testing mostly for suspend and powered off power draws. The load testing was only done to see how long I could run the system full steam with the engine off. I need the power of the Core2 though as it'll be handling all audio processing with eventually 3 way up front and sub.  I see one core being utilized like 70% with all the audio processors in place.

Aaaaanyways, the Atom is still fine for many tasks but true processing and light web browsing. I wish more people would take the initiative and install carpc's as he capabilities of an x86 system are great.

Care to share more information? Using integrated audio? What speakers/tweeters and how are they installed? Future plans? I'm a slacker with mine as I've had the parts for probably nearly a year now but refuse to install anything until I know the car can be parked securely inside a garage. The system does run great on the bench though ;)
1988 Thunderbird Sport

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Reply #8 –
Cool install ,  it looks like it was meant to be there.:D
 
But forgive my ignorance , what are the advantages of a computer in the car?
Fox-less at the moment

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Reply #9 –
Quote from: hypostang;335905
cool install ,  it looks like it was meant to be there.:d
 
but forgive my ignorance , what are the advantages of a computer in the car?


x2

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Reply #10 –
Quote from: hypostang;335905
Cool install ,  it looks like it was meant to be there.:D
 
But forgive my ignorance , what are the advantages of a computer in the car?

To make geeks happy. Everything from GPS to EEC and TCS communicat6on. Right now I haul around a UMPC for this task and it's a pain. A good DAC can also give you sound quality above anything you can buy in the car audio aftermarket. There are frontends, and you can add more to them, to do anything you want without having to use the mouse cursor to navigate around like a standard PC.

Standard car equipment REALLY sucks and limits you to a few basic tasks that it does horribly. It can cost quite a bit though...

Edit:
Video recording. I may not use the PC for this anymore but tying cameras into the unit for driving, and trigger them on when the alarm gets set off, can pay for itself if you catch something on video just once.
1988 Thunderbird Sport

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Quote from: Seek;335912
To make geeks happy. Everything from GPS to EEC and TCS communicat6on. Right now I haul around a UMPC for this task and it's a pain. A good DAC can also give you sound quality above anything you can buy in the car audio aftermarket. There are frontends, and you can add more to them, to do anything you want without having to use the mouse cursor to navigate around like a standard PC.

Standard car equipment REALLY sucks and limits you to a few basic tasks that it does horribly. It can cost quite a bit though...


Ok , that makes sense.
I guess my kids are wrong  and I'm not really a geek  :D
Fox-less at the moment

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Reply #12 –
Quote from: hypostang;335905
Cool install ,  it looks like it was meant to be there.:D
 
But forgive my ignorance , what are the advantages of a computer in the car?


like i said
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 i did'nt like the way aftermarket radios looked in the dash i have the old setup i had in the cougar but aftermarket radios stick out past the trim and over the trim.. yuck!

now i don't have to tote around a bunch of DVD's and CD's. they are all on the hard drive no rips in the sense audio compression, full clones.
and of course if i need to use the internet i can


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Care to share more information? Using integrated audio? What speakers/tweeters and how are they installed? Future plans? I'm a slacker with mine as I've had the parts for probably nearly a year now but refuse to install anything until I know the car can be parked securely inside a garage. The system does run great on the bench though


mainly going to be used for audio ie DVD's and CD's

audio play back on the outputs of the computer is 24bit 96khz
and is 5.1 integrated sound card MN10 chipset but i am using it in 2 channel mode. each output plug is stereo ie  front L/R rear L/R and using the last two for subs..

i used these speakers for the doors and rear QTR's
http://www.audiosavings.com/products/6x9-and-5x7-Car-Speakers/%282%29-NEW-RE-AUDIO-250-WATT-5x7-6x8-2-WAY-CAR-SPEAKERS/RE5X7FR.aspx

i will be adding speakers to the factory tweeter/mid-range modules that are in the doors and rear QTR's and will fit like a 3.5" speaker max

the subs are
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-032

the amp's are ok they do the job not as good as my old ones but put out more then enough power and are clean.. just not as clean and efficient as my old ones but i was on a tight budget for amp's..but again they work fine maybe one day i will update them..

two of these one for the fronts and rears and one for the subs

http://www.audiosavings.com/products/4-Channel-Car-Amplifier/NEW-CRUNCH-PZT1400.4-1400-WATT-4-CHANNEL-CAR-AMPLIFIER/PZT1400.4.aspx
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there's only about a half a dozen man made objects that are herd by the human ear below 40Hz,a pipe organ,thunder,the space shuttle lifting off,a jet airplane taking off or landing,a large canon,an atomic bomb ignited in your back yard and the heat wave afterward oh wait you would be dead so you would'nt hear it scratch that!,and maybe beating your hear against a wall less then 40 times a second..rap music is'nt one of them!thats 40-60Hz@100+db the moving air is under 40Hz

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Reply #13 –
I just realized you were the dude who  posted about your  home theater with like 9000 speakers a couple of months ago . ;)

 I now fully understand the carputer :D

 And again, it looks great , nice job :bowdown:
Fox-less at the moment

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Quote from: hypostang;335928
I just realized you were the dude who  posted about your  home theater with like 9000 speakers a couple of months ago . ;)

 I now fully understand the carputer :D

 And again, it looks great , nice job :bowdown:

:laughing::laughing:"9000 speakers":rollin:

yep thats me.
since you brought it up it reminds me that after i built those speakers i should have used about 18000 speakers with the power i'm running threw them;)
just kidding but i should have used  6 or 8 drivers for the front and center speakers. but i really wanted to have all matching speakers so thats why they where built all the same.

if you would like the spec's for them they are not hard to build. or if you would like to build a smaller set for like desktop speakers.

i would be more then glad to share;) could be made tons of different ways ie with 3" drivers 4" and so on and as a cube instead of towers.

Nick
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there's only about a half a dozen man made objects that are herd by the human ear below 40Hz,a pipe organ,thunder,the space shuttle lifting off,a jet airplane taking off or landing,a large canon,an atomic bomb ignited in your back yard and the heat wave afterward oh wait you would be dead so you would'nt hear it scratch that!,and maybe beating your hear against a wall less then 40 times a second..rap music is'nt one of them!thats 40-60Hz@100+db the moving air is under 40Hz