97 explorer Reply #15 – November 21, 2009, 11:35:41 PM I have an Explorer cam on the work bench. Quote Selected
Hey Nate Reply #16 – November 22, 2009, 02:52:56 PM If you want to replace your springs, which you should, I have a set of low-mileage Crane springs I'd sell you for $20 plus shipping. If you're interested, let me know. Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #17 – November 23, 2009, 10:08:47 AM That's a killer deal for valve springs. Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #18 – November 24, 2009, 05:23:33 PM Quote from: vinnietbird;299890That's a killer deal for valve springs.It is, if they meet the requirements of his cam. Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #19 – November 24, 2009, 06:21:17 PM CAM INFO: Specs for the Explorer cam for those interested are as follows:Lobe lift: Intake - .264 Exhaust - .280 Multiply by rocker arm ratio for total liftAdv. Duration: Intake - 256 Exhaust - 266ICL - 118ECL - 114LSA - 116Intake Opens 10* ATDCIntake Closes 66* ABDCExhaust Opens 66* BBDCExhaust Closes 20*BTDCOverlap 30* @ advertised duration #'sCompare with the charts below..... Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #20 – November 24, 2009, 06:53:16 PM Keep in mind that the 93 T-bird/Cougar uses the same 5.0 roller cam as the 93 Cobra....Nice junkyard find. Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #21 – November 25, 2009, 01:54:28 AM Very nice...thanks Demon...saving this for my Tbird/Cougar info I'm compiling. :burnout: Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #22 – November 25, 2009, 07:04:31 AM Quote from: Sick88Tbird;299539The explorer cam is not at all a bad cam. They're peak power is rated at 4200rpm with P heads and 4700rpm with the standard GT40's. Stock HO's peak out around 4000-4200rpm. The common misconception is that since it's an SUV is that it has a "truck cam"...the old "truck cams" were Standard Output 5.0 cams...the Explorer/Mountaineer cam is a far cry from the SO cam.I believe the P headed engine is around 217ish HP...with a stupid restrictive set of exhaust manifolds, some guys are claiming gains of 30+ hp from just headers/exhaust. The cam is NOT the big restriction on that engine.Nate, good luck to you buddy!-DonQuote from: Sick88Tbird;299708I believe that up to '93(maybe even all the way up to '95) all 5.0 trucks used the same grind as the HO...what gives it a bit more power is the heads and freer flowing intake. Also, the pick-ups will have much better than 2.73 gears(in most cases). The later truck/Explorer cam is a real hot rod cam compared to the SO unit.I'm not saying to go out and buy up all the Explorer/Mountaineer cams you can, but if you're building a mild little daily driver or even a low-budget weekend tire fryer...it's a decent cam and it's really not necessary to swap it out......but I know Nate...he's trying to build something a little bit more serious than that...lol.Good luck Nate!-DonFellas, this is not true. The Exploder cam is a turd and is made for low end. A simple E cam swap pumps that same motor up 50 hp. The explorer cam is junk and should only be used in low RPM high torque applications. I would still prefer a stock SO cam over the explorer.On another note, if you would like to use the coil packs, the timing cover, water pump, all accessories and brackets with associated stuff must be used. The Explorer has an integrated harmonic balancer and crank trigger system that cannot be separated.The easiest way to would be to plug the dizzy hole with the explorer piece, and run an MSD ignition setup for DIS using the explorer or 4.6 coil packs. I would say 4.6 since the explorer has mega pricey plug wires and no aftermarket support. The real gains would not out weight the headache caused by this....stick with the A9P, factory accessories and a dizzy. My 2 cents. Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #23 – November 27, 2009, 05:19:43 PM Quote from: jandmmustangs;300114Keep in mind that the 93 T-bird/Cougar uses the same 5.0 roller cam as the 93 Cobra....Nice junkyard find.Some have the same specs as the Cobra cam...which isn't all that great either...Fords attempt at trying to have some kind of low-end torque with the GT40 iron heads. You'd get more from an HO cam.It's not that the Explorer cam is junk(compared to HO), but for the budget guy with an AOD, stock convertor and stockish rear gear...it's great. Of course it'll look like junk next to an aftermarket cam, no question about it...they all do.-Don Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #24 – November 27, 2009, 07:30:56 PM QuoteThe Exploder cam is a turd and is made for low end. A simple E cam swap pumps that same motor up 50 hp.....which would be useless in an Explorer due to the lack of low end an E-cam is known for E-cam in an Explorer with a 4r70 and 3.27's........B A D ....And yes the 93 Cougars and Tbirds had the same cam as the 93 Cobra from the factory. The difference is the rocker arms -- Cobra: 1.7 Cougar/Tbird: 1.6 See footnote #14 in the charts I posted. It was a running change apparently 91& 92Cougars/Tbirds had The F1 H.O. grind -- All of them.QuoteThe common misconception is that since it's an SUV is that it has a "truck cam"...the old "truck cams" were Standard Output 5.0 cams...the Explorer/Mountaineer cam is a far cry from the SO cam.It's considered a truck cam by Ford On a side note: Weren't the truck flat tappet cams until '94 just with the same lobe profiles as the S.O. (which WAS a roller)?With Gt-40 heads and given the choice between SO, HO, Cobra, Explorer, and E-cam........HO cam with 1.7 ratio rocker arms thank you very much. :) Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #25 – November 27, 2009, 09:48:36 PM well thanks for all the input guys, looks like that explorer is junk tho... over 200k used it as a tow vehicle and smashed the hell out of it hitting a deer. also, check engine light was on before he hit it, and he messed up some of the harness and shredded the rad ect... not worth it to me to buy that one. mn12 tbirds have coil packs tho, and the "ho" engine lol... however detuned it may be, maybe ill try that instead. theres plenty of them floating around i can snag parts from. Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #26 – November 27, 2009, 11:02:32 PM Quote from: Nate;300362mn12 tbirds have coil packs tho, and the "ho" engine lol...5.0 MN-12s have coil packs??? I don't think so... Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #27 – November 28, 2009, 11:11:57 AM Quote from: TurboCoupe50;3003745.0 MN-12s have coil packs??? I don't think so...+1 They have distributors like the Fox cars. Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #28 – November 29, 2009, 10:02:46 AM Quote from: V8Demon....And yes the 93 Cougars and Tbirds had the same cam as the 93 Cobra from the factory. The difference is the rocker arms -- Cobra: 1.7 Cougar/Tbird: 1.6 See footnote #14 in the charts I posted. It was a running change apparently 91& 92Cougars/Tbirds had The F1 H.O. grind -- All of them.:)Not ALL had the F3ZE cam in '93, but there were plenty out there...they were also equipped with the HO cam in '93. I believe it to be dependant on production date.Quote from: V8DemonOn a side note: Weren't the truck flat tappet cams until '94 just with the same lobe profiles as the S.O. (which WAS a roller)?All 5.0 trucks were roller cammed by '92. The 5.8's went roller in '94.-Don Quote Selected
97 explorer Reply #29 – November 29, 2009, 12:46:26 PM QuoteNot ALL had the F3ZE cam in '93, but there were plenty out there...they were also equipped with the HO cam in '93. I believe it to be dependant on production date.footnote #14 in the chart Quote Selected
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