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Reply #15
Yeah, I'm pretty busy, so the Bird gets the backburner alot.  But I'm going out of town for college next semester, so this thing is going to move soon.

I'll get to the testing later this week.  Tomorrow I have to put up hay.
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

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Reply #16
Both grounding the Tan/LG wire and making a Jumper wire didn't work.  I do have 12 volts to the power wire (pin 1).

I tried running the volt meter from pin 1 to Pin 40 and Pin 60.  A diagram I have says those two are the power grounds, and run to the battery.  Both showed 0V.  Could I have 2 bad grounds, or am I messing up the test?
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

Crazy idea...

Reply #17
Both grounding the Tan/LG wire and making a Jumper wire didn't work.  I do have 12 volts to the power wire (pin 1).

I tried running the volt meter from pin 1 to Pin 40 and Pin 60.  A diagram I have says those two are the power grounds, and run to the battery.  Both showed 0V.  Could I have 2 bad grounds, or am I messing up the test?
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

Crazy idea...

Reply #18
there is a green ground wire to be bolted down near the computer itself.  It has a green screw head as well.

this is hosed dude!!

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Reply #19
Quote from: tireshredder;280345
Both grounding the Tan/LG wire and making a Jumper wire didn't work.  I do have 12 volts to the power wire (pin 1).

I tried running the volt meter from pin 1 to Pin 40 and Pin 60.  A diagram I have says those two are the power grounds, and run to the battery.  Both showed 0V.  Could I have 2 bad grounds, or am I messing up the test?

Yes you should have 12v between pin 1 and pin 40 or 60.
Pin 40 and 60 go to the little pigtail wire on your negative battery cable.

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Reply #20
yeah,,, theres another idea,
that pig tail connector at the battery ,,,,

if its not hooked up then your pump wont come on.

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Reply #21
...I think that might be disconnected.  I will hunt around for it soon.
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

Crazy idea...

Reply #22
Quote from: tireshredder;278401
New fuel pump stop priming on me.  Impact switch is fine. Checked relay, I think it's good.  New computer didn't solve it either.  Checked repinning due to mass air conversion, and it's good except the fuel pump monitor, but I thought it was unnecessary.  It primes when I ground the Fuel Pump test port, which only skips over the EEC, correct?  The new computer was a reman. 

Now, unless there is anything else I can check, I have a solution.  I could run a wire and switch from the starter solenoid or ignition to the fuel pump or the relay.  The only problem is that this would leave it on all the time while running, and I don't know if this would hurt it.  I need to get the car moving and running, to see if the engine swap is good.

Anyone say boo?


i had the same problem with my 88 t-bird, look under the running board on the passinger side and you might find a bare wire the can be respliced

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Reply #23
It was the ground.  Took it off when I painted, never put it back on.  Oh, the little things you don't know...

Fuel pump primes, but the injectors don't fire (no clicking).  These are 19 lbs.  I had 24's in there before, but i switched computers.  Going to swap the injectors/MAF/EEC out later this week and see what happens.
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.


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Reply #25
Plan to.  Only hitch is that in a week, I'm in West Virginia fixing up houses.  Kinda kills any momentum...
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

Crazy idea...

Reply #26
Ok, update.

After I swapped computers, I tried starting a few times.  Backfired the first couple tries, but I think that was from gas getting down there while swapping injectors.  Injectors are clicking.  Did read the computer codes.  TPS voltage wrong and a Fuel pump monitor code (didn't hook that up yet).  Fixed the TPS voltage, and still no good.  Will look into it more Tuesday.  Guess I'll double check timing...
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

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Reply #27
Update.

Haven't checked timing, cause engine didn't seem happy with me turning it by hand.  Fuel pressure is fine.  Backfired a bit when I cranked it tonight, but still no smell of fuel.

Would it be a bad idea to unbolt the distributor and rotate it a bit, just till it starts firing?  I know this is how the old carb guys tuned it, but I'm not sure if the EEC would enjoy that...
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

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Reply #28
Ok, Set timing.  10 BTDC, like stock.  Nothing except the smell of gas...

This car has serious issues...
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

Crazy idea...

Reply #29
Did you disconnect the SPOUT when you set the timing?