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AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Are these transmissions the same length?  wondering if I need to be concerned about fitting issues.

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #1
if you did a two second search, or read two threads below this one.
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I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #2
Two threads below this is about a C5, not a C4.  I understand it is a beefier C4, but from your picture we can see the C5 isn't listed, thus this post has more relevancy in my thread anyay :]

EDIT:  I wonder if the 3" difference is a cause for concern.  I'm sure it is, lol.  Dealing with it will be interesting...new longer shaft perhaps?

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #3
Hah, never mind, after reading that entire thingy Isee they're virtually the same length.  That's pretty odd considering how much bulkier the AOD is.

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #4
I did a C4 swap in 2004 after eating my 2nd AOD and it was really easy. The crossmember will need to be modified or using one from a T-5 mustang solves the issue. Everything else is good.

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #5
How did you modify it?  just hog the slots out further?  Pix would be amazing, gonna search a bit and see if i can find an article on it

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #6
Quote from: Grumbles;270858
How did you modify it?  just hog the slots out further?  Pix would be amazing, gonna search a bit and see if i can find an article on it


The setback on the cross-member is set by ford . The "tubes" that position the x-member are welded to the x-member to hold it into place. Grinding the welds and positioning the x-member in place with your C4 is best. Then just reweld the tubes. Easy as 1-2-3 when you look at the x-member. Sorry no pics cause the car is 9000 miles away.

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #7
Hmmm.  I'm not entirely sure I understand.  The crossmember in my T-Bird looks like it was designed to accept multiple different length transmissions.  let me show you what I mean.



It has slots that allow the mount to be like 2" in difference.  Make sense?  What are you telling me I should do?  Will the transmission not fit into this slot?

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #8
The elongated holes might not be enough.  Most people shift the position of the mount.

X

Remove.
Grind the welds.
Install.
Shift the mount into the desired position and tac.
Remove, Re-weld, re-install.

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #9
but with a completely custom drivetrain, locating the C4 is more difficult.  So my question is this:  How far does the piece slide?  I'll be doing this before I even install my C4.  Because I need the C4 to locate the engine. 2 11/16" ?
1987 TC

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #10
I would probably Locate your engine where it will fit/clear the radiator and be relatively above the engine mounts.  Then position your C4.  Just my $0.02.

Just measure the bracket.  it will slide about the full travel of the tubes.  Leave it loose (un-welded) till you have your engine where you like it.

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #11
THose diagrams were extremely helpful. thanks :]

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #12
Quote from: danzajax;271102
I would probably Locate your engine where it will fit/clear the radiator and be relatively above the engine mounts.  Then position your C4.  Just my $0.02.

Just measure the bracket.  it will slide about the full travel of the tubes.  Leave it loose (un-welded) till you have your engine where you like it.


I could leave it loose, I s'pose, thanks.  I have to make my own motor mounts, thus the issue.  So far I have it closely located, but thought I could verify them with the C4 located correctly.  oh well.
1987 TC

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #13
I can measure my T5 bracket.  It should be in about the same place as for a c4.  Let me know if you want the measurement.
-dz

AOD - C4 swap, lengths?

Reply #14
That would be helpful.  Thanks in advance :]