Iron 460 handling

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Iron 460 handling

August 07, 2008, 08:02:12 AM

For anyone that's swapped an iron headed 460 into their cars did you notice a big handling difference ? How about aluminum ? Thanks

Iron 460 handling

Reply #1 – August 07, 2008, 08:09:07 AM

Any BB dropped in the front of one of these is seriously going to affect the handling of the car.
If you're worried about cornering/handling, don't drop a BB in there...

Iron 460 handling

Reply #2 – August 07, 2008, 09:13:28 AM

look all I want to know is how your car handled after the swap if you can't anser that dont bother responding.

Iron 460 handling

Reply #3 – August 07, 2008, 09:55:25 AM

How about telling folks what your intended use is for the car?

The car will handle like you've added 300# to the front of the car.

Also, how about getting the bug out of your ass?

New approach

Reply #4 – August 07, 2008, 01:30:53 PM

Maybe I better rephrase my question. You see I'm only interested in the difference between the iron heads and aluminum heads where as handling is concerned. A guy on a Mustang forum told me he's run both and could'nt tell the difference. It's a real simple question.

Iron 460 handling

Reply #5 – August 07, 2008, 01:36:53 PM

Well, when you are adding at least 300# to the front of the car OVER a 5.0....the "lighter" AL heads aren't going to make any difference as the balance of the car (which is nose-heavy as it is) is going to be even worse. The 50#(?) between the two isn't going to matter.

Iron 460 handling

Reply #6 – August 07, 2008, 09:05:03 PM

I have both iron and aluminum heads in a 460 fox body stang and a 429ranchero.. around town couldn't tell what heads where on it.handle the same and drove the same.
the only time i notice any change was in my drag racing ET. the aluminum heads flow better than fords factory head at the higher rpms(4500 and up) .so it made more horse power in the higher rpms.
if your going to just drive your car around town and some highway driving .the aluminum not worth extra money .
if your going to race(street or strip):burnout: or
want the cool factor:bowdown: or
tring to keep the lbs down. then get aluminum head.

thanks

Reply #7 – August 07, 2008, 10:02:41 PM

Just what I wanted to know. I already have custom coil springs (550 lbs f 325 lbs r ), Eibach sway bars, Bullit Mustang gas shocks, CHE rear control arms etc... so I'm hoping it handles pretty good despite the extra weight. It's not going to see the strip anyway.

Iron 460 handling

Reply #8 – August 07, 2008, 10:59:29 PM

It won't handle, period. Those front springs you have are too light anyway even for a Tbird w/ a SB.

It's completely asinine building a Fox with a BB hoping it will "handle".

Then again, I must not know anything about these cars...

wont handle

Reply #9 – August 07, 2008, 11:11:29 PM

First of all they are stiffer than the springs that are already on my stock 5.0 powered 87 Cougar by 30% according to Coil Spring Specialties ( the manufacturer) and if the are'nt I can use the Mach 1 springs I have ( 600 lbs front ).

Iron 460 handling

Reply #10 – August 07, 2008, 11:16:01 PM

Quote from: ricktjr;231156

First of all they are stiffer than the springs that are already on my stock 5.0 powered 87 Cougar by 30% according to Coil Spring Specialties ( the manufacturer) and if the are'nt I can use the Mach 1 springs I have ( 600 lbs front ).

First of all...:rolleyes:

They are too light, period. The stock springs are too soft to start with, your 30% increase won't mean squat.

The car will wallow and push and handle like you set a hippo on the hood...

Oh wait...are you going to tell me to get a life again?

No Mas. LOL

Reply #11 – August 07, 2008, 11:25:17 PM

If the mach 1 springs dont work I can always go heavier. The big block stays It's the cheapest way to 500 hp without juice. I must tell you though so far I just put the Eibach swaybars on and the difference going around corners is amazing. Unfortunately the harder cornering I did killed the old shocks on the car and now it sits until I can replace the whole suspension and since I want to replace the drivetrain anyway I'll do it all at once this winter.

Iron 460 handling

Reply #12 – August 07, 2008, 11:31:20 PM

no, your car not going a handle like a slot car (da) with a 460 but i would put the much-1 spring in first because i use the 99 cobra takeout springs all around in the fox body stang and it handled like any 88 to 93 mustang 4cylinder car handles like.
i remember reading some where that 460 weights the same as the iron block 4.6 . if they can get those boats of a 1996 on up mustang with a 4.6 to handle. you would think that a 460 bird/cougar would handle some what? just food for thought:hick:

by the way i still have the 86 stang that i had the 460 IN but i went back to 351w. thinking i could get better ET out of a 351ford crate motor. runs the same ET SO THAT WAS A WASTE.

Iron 460 handling

Reply #13 – August 07, 2008, 11:31:55 PM

You're shooting yourself in the foot with the big block. You won't see 500hp anyway...and what's the use if you're not drag racing it? All you are going is totally screwing up the balance of the car so you can say you have a 460 and a hypothetical big HP number.

You didn't like my answer because I didn't tell you what you wanted to hear. It doesn't matter one bit if people could tell no difference in the handling between an iron or AL-headed 460. They could tell no difference because they handled equally as bad.

If you want to live in lala land and build your big block so be it, but don't kid yourself that it will handle one bit. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

ranchero... no a 460 weighs upwards of 700#+... The 4.6's don't weigh close to that.

Iron 460 handling

Reply #14 – August 08, 2008, 12:03:04 AM

why not just upgrade the suspension first, then get a cheap rebuilt motor($1000 or less) throw a couple hundred in junkyard parts at it then just swap out motor's and have an extra just in case? you could get to 400hp with better gas mileage and still save money and not have to swap everything else out.

You need either a new k-member with mustang specific 460 drop mounts, or custom mounts for your stock k-member. New tranny and engine, as well as a lot of wiring changes to keep efi, or swap out to a carb and lose drivibility and dependability.

Also, chuck used to design and still builds parts for the suspension of these cars and used to work for kenny brown if I remember correctly. So I would just guess that your arguing with him isn't going to get you anywhere...