Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude July 24, 2008, 08:45:29 PM So; it's about 6:55 in the P.M., the wife is out and I'm in the basp00get with my daughter painting watercolors.The doorbell rings. I figure it's the wife as I locked the screen door and she can never seem to find the key. It's some dude, maybe 20 years old with a clipboard in his hand. I open it and he starts his speech.The dog goes bananas and runs outside as my daughter decides it's time to grab the water spray bottle by the front door (for plants) and squirt it. Repeatedly. I stop the guy and ask him if it's possible if he could come back in a half-hour or so as my wife will be home and it's really not a good time right now. He sucks his teeth, shakes his head, and gives me a dirty smirk.[SIZE="6"]Wrong move![/SIZE] Infuriated, I tell him to get off my property. Before he's fully away, I rethink this decision and ask to see his ID (he's required to show his work ID upon request for door to door stuff like this). He smirks and holds it up from 40 feet away and continues walking.My anger has increased now. He foolishly goes right to the house next door and at this moment the wife pulls up. I hand my daughter off to her and assume a position on the hood of my wife's car pensively waiting. As he's finishes and walks back down the neighbor's driveway, he looks at me. I ask him again for his ID and remind him he needs a license to solicit door to door. He grudgingly obliges as I take note of his name and the organization name (he was looking for signatures for a petition). I tell him if he wants my signature to send someone else to get it and lose the attitude.Upon this interaction I call the organizations phone # (Have I told you how much I love Google?) and recant my tale. I actually spoke with a person who took my name and number. I expect a follow-up phone call tomorrow...Fvckin' kids..... Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #1 – July 24, 2008, 09:03:16 PM hahah, give him hell Paul... Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #2 – July 24, 2008, 10:17:06 PM Oh man.... I hate it when someone comes to your door or calls you on the phone and act like they are doing you a favor when they are interrupting your day!A week or so ago, I had someone call about some resort get away in Fl, tickets to Disneyland, yadda yadda yadda....so I listen to her whole schpele and then she tells me how much it will cost. SO I say"No thanks, can't afford it". She then says she's going to check with her supervisor to see what they can do for me....ok.......so, young punk comes on ('supervisor) and says "I see you called to inquire about our vacation package (um no, you called me!) then he tells me he can give me a discount, so I ask how much....$100 off the package... sorry, still can't afford it. He then gets attitude with me and says "Then why did you ask me how much of a discount if you can't afford it".My reply: "Ya know what? I don't want it" CLICK!I have the number on my caller ID and thought about calling back and asking for this guy's supervisor but I figured I'd get another a*hole on the line so I didn't.These kind of people really aggravate me. It's bad enough on the phone, but don't come to my door trying to 'sell' me something, then act all high and mighty. Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #3 – July 25, 2008, 07:23:09 AM I don't do phone solicitation at all (unless it's a charity... that I believe in). I'm polite, and I say no thanks. If they try even once to 'keep me on the line' I give them hell. It's usually the same thing."This is my house, not a shopping mall. If I was looking for a *insert product* I'd go find it myself. DON'T call me back."Heaven help you if you call at supper time. That's when my wife takes the phone and goes apes**t. Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #4 – July 25, 2008, 07:45:20 AM I had a guy walk up to my front porch last night,before he could knock one of my dogs got up from a nap crazy and shoved his head thru the screen in the door growling.He must of not liked him,very unusal for the dog.The guy booked and I never did talk to him.Of course now I got to fix the screen. Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #5 – July 25, 2008, 07:48:15 AM LOLYou said “He sucks his teeth” the jobs coming out on ya. Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #6 – July 25, 2008, 01:23:27 PM wow Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #7 – July 25, 2008, 03:56:03 PM When I was in highschool, I had some Marines recruiters come to my door...or should I say, attempt to come to my door. We had the door open, but the screen door closed. Now, at this time, I had a great dane, on his hind legs, he was 6'2" tall, and weighed 188 pounds. On all 4's, at attention, his head came up above my hip bone, and I'm 6'. I see from the window, these 2 big guys get out of the car, hats on, and low over their face, strutting their muscles in tight shirts, they come up the stairs to my house, and my dog goes up to the screen door, see's them and barks. This dogs bark could be heard a good distance away, it's loud with a lot of bass. They about fell over each other trying to get down the stairs and into their car. They sat in the car for 5 minutes, walked back up the stairs, and hung a key chain and a card off of the railing. What I like to do with phone solicitors, when they call, they'll ask "is so and so there", and I'll say "oh...you want to speak with Mr Click?" , then hang up the phone. Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #8 – July 26, 2008, 04:17:20 AM I'm a 'phone solicitor'.It's not a lifelong career, but it's a job. At the very least I shan't be ashamed because the company I work for deals only with non-profit organizations for its outbound calls. I think there's a few things everyone needs to know.FIRST and foremost. Everyone's favorite national Do-Not-Call list does NOT apply to Non-Profits. So if you should get a call from... we'll say the American Heart Association, American Cancer Society, etc. you get the idea. To say "I'm on the DNC list" and hang up does no good. Just sowing some seeds of little-known wisdom. Secondly, in many telephone marketing firms, the company is contracted with the client to make calls and do a certain number of requests. For example, the company I work for, IMC, is contracted with most all it's clients to make two requests for folks to distribute letters (often called a Neighborhood campaing) and then one ask for a monetary donation. The latter is usually only used if someone has done a neighborhood campaign with the letters before and does not wish to do it again. Anyway, that's more details than anyone needs to know.. my point is that all you have to do if you get one of these calls and you're unwilling to do the 'volunteering' as they call it is just patiently and politely say no and most companies, after 3 no's will politely end the call.The magic words when it comes to telephone solicitation, as many folks already know, I think, are 'Take me off your list'. In many centers, phrases like 'I wish you'd stopped calling', 'Stop Calling me', 'Fvck off' and the like will only get you marked down as a No for that campaign and you may receive a call again within six months. It works like this. Each Organization (ADA, ACS, etc) has a list. Each list has several copies, each one for different campaigns. One campaign may actually be calling just for donations, one may be just for neighborhood letters, etc. The super-secret ultra keyword regarding all this rigmarole is to ask someone to be taken off of the "Master List". I've worked at this for about 2 months an never heard this phrase yet, so I don't think a lot of people know about it. In that case, your name/number would be removed from every list that the firm uses on all outbound campaigns. Also, an important thing to note is that in some instances, there will be two or more records in one household. Say John Smith and Mary Smith are married, both live at the same house and both have the same phone number. That number could be on the list TWICE... once under Mary's name and once under John's name. Because of this, when someone gets taken off a list, it sometimes takes a while for ALL references to that number to be deleted. Especially considering these lists have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of records on them. You get the idea.And... regarding these lists: The telephone marketing firms, in the instance of the one I work for, anyway, do NOT own nor sell lists of names and numbers. It is publicly known that the non-profits will sell and trade names lists, but when a client approaches a telemarketing firm, they furnish the lists.It is legal for telemarketing firms to call you at any time between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. YOUR time. So, the guilt trip about "Do you have any idea what time it is?" We really don't know, honestly. Firms like the one I work at call all over the US (And sometimes Canada :eek:) throughout the day and there is no rhyme or reason to the order in which the calls are made. We just ensure that we're within the legal time limits. Yesterday I called Hawaii followed directly by Vermont.Speaking of 'calling'. I think most people already know this, but I don't dial a single number during the whole day at work. I pick up and hang up calls with the click of a mouse. The automated dialer calls a LOT of numbers at a time and when it hears something (answering machine, fax machine, real live person) pick up... it sends the call to an available terminal. When a call gets 'shot' at me I hear a beep (most of the time) a name comes up on my screen and someone's already said 'hello' a time or two. That's probably my least favorite part of my job. I have about .5 seconds to figure out how to pr0nounce Mr. Kallanagowdar and not sound like I've never seen it before in my life.Finally, (for now) Don't worry... there is an end in sight to outbound telephone marketing. Five out of fifty states have passed legislation that allows telephone marketing firms to only ask ONE request and then they must end the call. And as more states do this, the less and less work there will be for outbound marketing. Also, when someone is taken off of our lists, it did only last for 5 years. Now it's been put into law that they are non-renewable. Once on the list, always on the list. I'm not boo-hooing, just letting you know the state of the industry. The company I work for is already looking for more and more inbound clients./rant.I'm sorry if I come off as bitter or talking down to anyone, but I get yelled at and hung up on all day, and I know, that's part of my job that I (begrudgingly) accepted and agreed to. But I feel like if I can share some information with others that maybe this whole thing would cause everyone a little less grief. Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #9 – July 26, 2008, 10:17:11 AM QuoteIt is legal for telemarketing firms to call you at any time between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. YOUR time. So, the guilt trip about "Do you have any idea what time it is?" We really don't know, honestlyI can gather from that than a time after 9 PM is not legal. Say like 11PM? A time at which I've had the dubious pleasure of picking up the phone only to have a phone solicitor on the other end more than once. In an instance such as that, they SHOULD know. QuoteI'm sorry if I come off as bitter or talking down to anyone, but I get yelled at and hung up on all day, and I know, that's part of my jobAnd herein lies the difference! The dope that came to my house apparently did not know that getting yelled at was part of his job....Hell, I didn't even yell until he gave me the look and the attitude. I actually asked him to come back in a little bit.I've done that before with other door to door persons and when they do return I listen. I figure if they were nice enough to oblige me than the least I can do is return the favor. Some have gotten my signature and even sold me the items they were selling.Knock on my door, fine. Be polite. That was all I wanted. Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #10 – July 26, 2008, 12:23:17 PM telecoms are also exempt from the DNC Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #11 – July 26, 2008, 04:19:11 PM I have caller ID...I don't answer the phone, ever. The wife on the other hand, lol. Door to door where I live involves only two episodes. First being a kid asking me to buy meat from a grocery store that had an overabundance due to their freezer failing. I thought here's a thief trying to get money for some meat. I refused. (freezer full of venison anyway)Second was a Jehovah witness. I happened to be out working on the plow truck, listened to their spiel, and moved on. No big deal. Ah, living out in the country has its rewards, lol. Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #12 – July 26, 2008, 04:26:38 PM Quote from: HAVI;229202I have caller ID...I don't answer the phone, ever. The wife on the other hand, lol. Door to door where I live involves only two episodes. First being a kid asking me to buy meat from a grocery store that had an overabundance due to their freezer failing. I thought here's a thief trying to get money for some meat. I refused. (freezer full of venison anyway) Second was a Jehovah witness. I happened to be out working on the plow truck, listened to their spiel, and moved on. No big deal. Ah, living out in the country has its rewards, lol. Should of bought the horse! lol Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #13 – July 26, 2008, 09:46:48 PM Oooh my, anyone here ever hear of Tom Mabe? http://www.youtube.com/v/un_PjRXV5l8&hl=en&fs=1 Quote Selected
Don't knock on my door & then give ME attitude Reply #14 – July 27, 2008, 04:30:12 PM Ifixyawata thanks for the good advice Paul next time have the hose ready and just soak the SOB Quote Selected
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