What about the original Cougar V8? March 08, 2005, 12:01:30 AM Hey all,I noticed after reading lots of posts about engine swapping that nobody has ever mentioned dropping the original Cougar V8 in a Fox car, the 289. I've always thought that would be a cool setup! A K-code Fox Cougar, anybody?! A 289 sits in exactly the same space as a 302, doesn't it? I know the 289 is a "little" harder to find than a 302 of any flavor, and most are sitting in '65/'66 Mustangs and '67 Cougars (and some other '60's Fords). It's just a combination that I've never seen. If I ever got my hands on one, I'd sure put it in my '84 LS. If we really want to get wild, what about a Boss 302 Fox car!? What's everybody think? Let me know! Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #1 – March 08, 2005, 01:05:17 AM The 289s are stout LITTLE engines, but IMHO thats the problem they are too small for a 3500lb car. Something on the order of the 351 is about the right size(again IMHO). BTW I actually have a 289 from a '68 Cougar("C" code 2bbl). One of my freinds that does a lot of work on the early Stangs, has dibs on it. Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #2 – March 08, 2005, 06:46:52 PM There is a cat prowling these boards (or possibly CougarNuts) with a 289 in it. Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #3 – March 08, 2005, 09:58:01 PM well finding a compleat 289 is alot harder then finding a 302 Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #4 – March 08, 2005, 10:28:20 PM How about using the late model block "roller block" with the 289 guts, but boring it back out to a 302. High rpm engine now that would be cool. Yes I know the 289 crack will not just drop in, because it is a 2 piece main where the roller block is a one piece. Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #5 – March 09, 2005, 01:58:47 AM Bigger is better and leave it at that Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #6 – March 10, 2005, 08:14:50 PM Quote from: SirChirpAlotBigger is better and leave it at thatyes,, size matters at least for now it does.,, im just sitting back waiting to pounce on the research ive done. Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #7 – March 11, 2005, 12:50:01 AM years ago, I had a '79 stang that I put a 289 in and it was the quickest car I'd been in at the time('90), of course, that was before I got the Torino or all the cars that followed. I think you'd be a lot happier just dropping a 351 in it. Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #8 – March 11, 2005, 12:14:36 PM Mild 351 is the way to go if u want a quick car that is used a toy and daily driver.Just a 351 with studs and good rod bolts a forged piston and a set of aftermarket heads would be very easy to build and u could spray it 150 all day Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #9 – April 01, 2005, 12:48:48 AM Quote from: slamedcatHow about using the late model block "roller block" with the 289 guts, but boring it back out to a 302. The 289 is the same bore as a 302, the stroke was the difference between them. You can use a 289 block, crank and heads, then put the EFI lower intake and all the EFI stuff on it, then you have a fuel injected 289. The heads will require a little work for the EGR, but I have seen it done. Or just use the 289 lower, and bolt on a set of E7T Heads with alll the fuel injection. You can also use the AOD behind it. The balancing between the early model and late model 289/ 302's are different, but if you use a 351W flywheel, your balancing is fine.I like the idea of the Boss 302, that would be cool, and definately different. Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #10 – April 01, 2005, 01:01:00 AM QuoteThe 289s are stout LITTLE engineswhats stout?...lol, akay thats gettin a little old. in all seriousness, i think a 289 would be regressing. dont they all use 2 peice rear main seals. i know it would be a different swap but with the availability of 302 why?a 4 bolt boss 302 would be nice though Quote Selected
Re: What about the original Cougar V8? Reply #11 – April 01, 2005, 01:07:36 AM QuoteThe 289 is the same bore as a 302, the stroke was the difference between them. That is what I was saying give it a small stroke and a large bore, that way it will run higher rpms.You use the 289 crank in the 302 "roller block" and you have a "roller 289" now bore it back out to a 302. Quote Selected