My dog got in a s with something wild

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My dog got in a s with something wild

April 29, 2008, 08:01:42 AM

Oz is going to cost me my house, if he doesn't brighten up. He's doing well, even now that he's sobered up. We think he got into it with either a Racpuppies or a Beaver. Our property borders a brook, and about 10M from the corner of the lot, there is a dam. Oz is always swimming around in there, and came back soaked when he got injured. I had the lights out when I called him in, so I didn't discover what had happened until morning. It was a wide open tear, about 2"x3", bare under the skin. Pretty brutal.

So here are my POTD's.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #1 – April 29, 2008, 08:06:16 AM

sorry to hear about that.
We have to watch our dogs because of the coyote's around.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #2 – April 29, 2008, 08:55:17 AM

Many coyotes up around where you live, Oldraven? The frickin' things are everywhere in this part of NS. I saw one out by my garage one night (he turned on the motion sensing light) but of course by the time I got my rifle he was long gone.

I don't think a small animal would injure your dog's back like that - if it had been a beaver or racpuppies he'd likely have his face all chewed up. Oz's injuries almost look like he was taking on two or more coyotes - while he was chewing on one, another jumped on his back.

I figure it's only a matter of time before one of my cats goes missing. Two cats go outside, but one is wild (she was a stray from the cottage) and is "woods smart". The other one is a city cat and is stupid enough to be eaten. For the past few years there's been plenty of prey animals (rabbits, grouse, pheasants) to keep the coyotes happy and well fed, but when those animals start to crash there's gonna be lots of hungry coyotes around...

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #3 – April 29, 2008, 09:32:47 AM

I'm also thinking it may have been a ground hog (not a gopher. I know a lot of people get those mixed up). A ground hog can make a pretty big mess, but they typically bite, not swipe.

It very well may be Coyotes. We have lots of them (Guysborough Co. is peppered with animals you don't want your pets tangling with) and I've heard them out on the ice yipping this winter, on the pond across the road. What's amazing is this dog has gotten two skunks, a porcupine, and now a mystery animal. He got his shots, in case it was a fox. There is a family that lives by the pond (small lake, really) and there were a few cases of dogs being put down last year in the county, due to contracting rabies from foxes. There haven't been any cases since the end of last summer, but I'm not taking chances with two children.

I think if it were Coyotes, though, Oz would be a thing of the past. Especially two. I don't know what they're like up your way, but around here they've been breeding with dogs, and are cross-bred with wolves to begin with, so they are getting bigger every year. They seriously get big enough to dwarf my German Shepherd.

, I hope he learns to stay out of the woods at night.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #4 – April 29, 2008, 10:52:47 AM

I would say from qty of dominate claw marks and the distance they are apart, it was an animal that had its claws in defense mode ,,meaning it looks like a pretty good size puppies and or a opossum.

A beaver will fugg up a dog, them are some pretty large claws even on a small beaver. I recently lost my Lab to a beaver which gashed his sckull and nose and that inturn created a sinus infection we could not get control of.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #5 – April 29, 2008, 12:08:13 PM

Quote from: jcassity;216301

I would say from qty of dominate claw marks and the distance they are apart, it was an animal that had its claws in defense mode ,,meaning it looks like a pretty good size puppies and or a opossum.

A beaver will fugg up a dog, them are some pretty large claws even on a small beaver. I recently lost my Lab to a beaver which gashed his sckull and nose and that inturn created a sinus infection we could not get control of.

That's why I'm thinking Beaver. Because I know they're there, and I know Oz is always down wading around in that pool. The fact that he came back soaked tells me that this whole thing may have happened underwater. If that were the case, he wouldn't have even known there was an animal when he got swiped.

Even still, we've called the Dept. of Lands and Forest, and we're getting rid of those Beavers. If it wasn't this time, it will be next.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #6 – April 29, 2008, 01:08:23 PM

WOW! Well, I hope he comes out of this ok, no infection or such.
He looks like he got his arse whooped and he knows it.

I bet he'll be sticking around the house for a while after this.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #7 – April 29, 2008, 01:30:23 PM

Ahhhh, dogs - they caused me more trouble than my kids ever have (so far). Hopefully yours will heal up soon. I still get weepy when i think of the one I tried to save from cancer - what a heartache.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #8 – April 29, 2008, 03:45:11 PM

Quote from: oldraven;216295

I'm also thinking it may have been a ground hog (not a gopher. I know a lot of people get those mixed up). A ground hog can make a pretty big mess, but they typically bite, not swipe.

It very well may be Coyotes. We have lots of them (Guysborough Co. is peppered with animals you don't want your pets tangling with) and I've heard them out on the ice yipping this winter, on the pond across the road. What's amazing is this dog has gotten two skunks, a porcupine, and now a mystery animal. He got his shots, in case it was a fox. There is a family that lives by the pond (small lake, really) and there were a few cases of dogs being put down last year in the county, due to contracting rabies from foxes. There haven't been any cases since the end of last summer, but I'm not taking chances with two children.

I think if it were Coyotes, though, Oz would be a thing of the past. Especially two. I don't know what they're like up your way, but around here they've been breeding with dogs, and are cross-bred with wolves to begin with, so they are getting bigger every year. They seriously get big enough to dwarf my German Shepherd.

, I hope he learns to stay out of the woods at night.

The coyotes here in north Hants county are fairly small (~50 lbs) but there are a lot of them. I hear them howling and squealing almost every night - sometimes in the distance, sometimes in the alders on the other side of the river that borders my property. I hear them all the time when deer hunting as well, and have actually heard them growling and gnashing just a few yards in the woods as I've walked back to the truck after the evening hunt (which is exactly why I keep my rifle loaded right up until I'm just about to get in the truck). It'll be interesting if one is ever stupid enough to attack my bullmastiff (once he's grown he'll be ~150 pounds).

Coyotes are opportunists, and if your dog made fight at them they might have just said "fvck it" instead of fighting him too hard. If they were really hungry they might put more into it, but this time of year with the deer fawning, the pheasants and grouse mating (and thus acting stupid), and rabbits everywhere, I can't see there being many hungry coyotes about.

I'm thinking a groundhog would likely have gouged his face up - he'd likely have had to have his head in a hole face to face with the groundhog, so it'd be hard to gouge his side.

I've never heard of beavers attacking a dog, but I suppose if a dog sticks his nose into a beaver, the beaver is going to fight it. I must keep that in mind - there's a beaver in the river near my house. I don't know where his dam is, but he's chewed off several of the alders on the river bank, and I got a picture of him right in my yard during the spring flood.

Whatever it was, your dog certainly looks like he was humbled, judging by his submissive expression in that third pic :D

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #9 – April 29, 2008, 04:00:09 PM

Hell we have coyotes here in the city.

Looks like he'll be OK though, but as mentioned, he may stay close to the house for a while

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #10 – April 29, 2008, 05:57:22 PM

Coyotes usually don't attack something equal to them in size. I'm not sure about a couple though. Here they're about the same size and color as my shepherd. (about 50 lbs). They get ballsy if you don't come out of the house to scare them away. they say if you do that they wont come around thinking its not there territory. It actually looks as though it's bite marks. looks like canine tooth holes on the sides of the wound on your pup. although its hard to tell the size of the bite in a pic. How much does he weigh.? He also looks embarrassed in the pic.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #11 – April 29, 2008, 06:11:20 PM

Caught this nasty beast just last week. He was like TAZ on Crack!!

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #12 – April 29, 2008, 06:51:12 PM

We have Coyotes in Madison. They are pretty big for normal ones. My My dog got tangled up with one last year at a dog park. The thing ran at me all crazy like and my Pit/Rot mix tackled it and gashed him pretty good. Drove him off but my dog didn't follow. (I love my dog BTW) My pup didn't have a scratch on him. The animal control people caught it and put it down the next day, but nothing was apparently wrong with it other than the fact it was stone cold crazy. It definitely was a Coyote, It wasn't rabid, and you could see where my dog got it across the shoulders and the Neck.

I don't subscribe to the whole "It wont attack anything bigger or the same size" club. It attacked me, and I outweigh it by a good 6.5 times. And this was in mid summer, with plenty of food. It didn't look scraggly at all. It looked, if anything, well fed.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #13 – April 29, 2008, 07:14:12 PM

Thats the ballsy part. They start to get used to something bigger not chasing them away. I always carry a club then I walk the dogs. (Mainly in summer)
there's some videos around of what you just described but in a regular park

They can also easily jump a 6' fence.

My dog got in a s with something wild

Reply #14 – April 29, 2008, 07:35:12 PM

Yep. And Since my dog is protective of me an my family, he wasn't having ANY of it. My dog scared the out of me more than the Coyote did. I've never seen him actually attack something before. He came back all happy with himself too. :)

I mean, he's such a baby. I guess we found his triggers though. Threaten me or my family, he lives up to his name.

(BTW, his name is Tank)