Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #270 – December 26, 2019, 11:40:55 AM Got it all together with the 60/55's and 100/80's. All set there. Now just waiting on the fog bulbs to show up.Gotta order my exhaust stuff next.Quote from: EricCoolCats – on December 25, 2019, 10:38:44 AMOh yeah...forgot I put those in there. Ooooops. Sorry about that Chuck. I don't think that was you. I may have swapped out the other bulbs thinking they may have been too "blue" for my tastes. I was wrong. They look fine. Quote Selected
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #271 – December 26, 2019, 03:44:56 PM Just an FYI:From CFR, Title 49, Part 571.108: Section 7.3.2 "Type A headlighting system". A Type A headlighting system consists of two Type 1A1 and two Type 2A1 headlamps and associated hardware, which are designed to conform to the following requirements:(a) SAE Standard J1383 APR85 Performance Requirements for Motor Vehicle Headlamps, with the following exceptions:(1) Paragraphs 1, 2.1.2, 2.8.2, 3, 4.1.1, 4.1.2, 4.1.3, 4.4, 4.6, 4.8 through 4.18, 5.1.1, 5.1.3, 5.1.5, 5.1.7 through 5.1.16, 5.2.2, 5.3.5, 5.4.1, 5.4.2, and 6 through 6.4 do not apply.(2) In paragraph 5.3.2, the words “and retaining rings” are omitted.(3) In paragraphs 4.5.2 and 5.1.6, the words “Figure 28-1 or 28-2 of Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 108” are substituted for “Table 3.”(b) SAE Standard J580 DEC86 Sealed Beam Headlamp Assembly (except paragraphs 3, 4.1.1, 5.1.1.1, 5.1.2.3, and the second sentence of 5.1.6); in 5.2.1, delete the words “and retaining rings;” the correct reference is SAE J1383 Figures 6, 9, 12 and 14.(c) After a vibration test conducted in accordance with paragraph S8.8, there shall be no evidence of loose or broken parts, other than filaments, visible without magnification.(d) The maximum wattage at 12.8 volts (design voltage): Single filament headlamp, 55 watts on the upper beam; dual filament headlamp, 43 watts on the upper beam and 65 watts on the lower beam.Source: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2000-title49-vol5/xml/CFR-2000-title49-vol5.xmlType 1A1 and 2A1's are the rectangular type headlights like the 83-86 cars have and are defined within this informative article:https://law.resource.org/pub/us/cfr/ibr/005/sae.j1383.1985.htmlSo all I am saying here is be careful how much wattage you run as one of our nice folks in uniform with the pretty lights and ticket book may take offense and hence so will your wallet. I only know all of this due to posting the wattage on the H2 bulbs I originally had in my '83's diamond headlights. Quote Selected
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #272 – December 26, 2019, 04:02:22 PM Good info.The HI's will only be run when needed, and the LO's aren't going to be any more bright than a lot of the headlights on newer cars anyway.I'm not overly concerned. if I feel the need to swap at a later time, I will :) Quote Selected
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #273 – December 26, 2019, 04:52:08 PM Good deal. Just didn’t want anyone else to try and do the 100 watt / 100 watt setup like I was thinking of running....talk about not smart. Quote Selected
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #274 – January 01, 2020, 10:25:42 PM Finally got a couple hours between all of the holiday running around to get the fog lights up and working.Got some standard H2 bulbsread a bunch of reviews that they didn't fit in the holders like mine. Can confirm.However, it wasn't anything a little time with a file couldn't fix.After that, the car has working fog lights for the first time ever.Just waiting on exhaust stuff to show up. Quote Selected 5 Likes Liked by: thunderjet302, BCA, QUICKSHIFT, bodyman, Mikey97D
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #275 – January 04, 2020, 08:26:45 PM Getting into the wiring on this thing.Wishing I'd planned ahead better on my power distribution and accounted better for it. To keep things simple, I'm probably just going to use the (5A) in-line fuse holder, even though I'd rather work something into the new set-up. It'll all be hidden under the dash, anyway.If I ever pull everything out and redo things, I'll dig in deeper.Need to figure out where to mount the sensor status LED. I mounted it in the dash console on my 240 install...and it was bright. I want to be able to see it, but not have it blind me at night.Also decided to swap the older stereo for a not-as-old-stereo while I was in there.Nothing wrong with the 9801, but I wanted to USB capability and a front-mounted AUX input (Instead of the cable from the back). Quote Selected Last Edit: January 04, 2020, 09:10:38 PM by Chuck W
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #276 – January 05, 2020, 08:27:09 PM *sigh*Couldn't get into the garage today, so I spent some time updating the firmware on the MS and making sure the current tune was in order, so I can get this reinstalled. Quote Selected
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #277 – January 06, 2020, 03:48:24 PM Quote from: Chuck W – on January 01, 2020, 10:25:42 PMFinally got a couple hours between all of the holiday running around to get the fog lights up and working.Got some standard H2 bulbsread a bunch of reviews that they didn't fit in the holders like mine. Can confirm.However, it wasn't anything a little time with a file couldn't fix.After that, the car has working fog lights for the first time ever.Just waiting on exhaust stuff to show up.Marchal Fog Lights are just so cool and era specific. They look awesome on your car.I wish there was a way to put them on 87-88 Thunderbirds where they didn't look tacky. Quote Selected Last Edit: January 06, 2020, 03:48:59 PM by thunderjet302
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #278 – January 06, 2020, 04:00:36 PM QuoteI wish there was a way to put them on 87-88 "Cougars" where they didn't look tacky. I added my .02$ also.What about the Mark VII? They look pretty tacky on there. Quote Selected Last Edit: January 06, 2020, 04:05:08 PM by Chuck W
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #279 – January 06, 2020, 04:22:28 PM If the slimmer Marchal 150's (1988.5-90 Escort GT) would fit in the smaller air ducts on either side of the 1987-88 T-Bird bumper cover, that would be a great option. I think they're still too big though. I've seen just generic aftermarket slim fog lamps in those slots and they look decent, but they aren't Marchals by any stretch. Quote Selected
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #280 – January 06, 2020, 07:31:32 PM Quote from: mcb82gt – on January 06, 2020, 04:00:36 PMQuoteI wish there was a way to put them on 87-88 "Cougars" where they didn't look tacky. I added my .02$ also.What about the Mark VII? They look pretty tacky on there. I always loved them on my Mark VII LSC. Never though they looked tacky on a Mark VII. Quote Selected 1 Likes Liked by: BCA
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #281 – January 06, 2020, 07:34:21 PM Quote from: EricCoolCats – on January 06, 2020, 04:22:28 PMIf the slimmer Marchal 150's (1988.5-90 Escort GT) would fit in the smaller air ducts on either side of the 1987-88 T-Bird bumper cover, that would be a great option. I think they're still too big though. I've seen just generic aftermarket slim fog lamps in those slots and they look decent, but they aren't Marchals by any stretch.Any idea on dimensions of the 150's? Quote Selected
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #282 – January 06, 2020, 10:56:43 PM Approx. 6" wide x 3" high. I remember them being as wide as a headlamp or regular Marchal 750 lens but about half as tall. Quote Selected
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #283 – January 07, 2020, 09:56:40 AM Quote from: thunderjet302 – on January 06, 2020, 07:31:32 PMQuote from: mcb82gt – on January 06, 2020, 04:00:36 PMQuoteI wish there was a way to put them on 87-88 "Cougars" where they didn't look tacky. I added my .02$ also.What about the Mark VII? They look pretty tacky on there. I always loved them on my Mark VII LSC. Never though they looked tacky on a Mark VII. They are "ok". Seems like just hanging out front on that bracket. Looks odd at some angles. Not smooth and tucked in like the Mustangs and TC XR7.I have a small escort marchal at home. I snagged it at a yard, thought it was cool. I'll look for it tonight. Quote Selected Last Edit: January 07, 2020, 09:57:48 AM by mcb82gt
Re: Chuck's '83 TBird Reply #284 – January 08, 2020, 03:08:43 PM Quote from: EricCoolCats – on January 06, 2020, 10:56:43 PMApprox. 6" wide x 3" high. I remember them being as wide as a headlamp or regular Marchal 750 lens but about half as tall.Hole in the standard 87-88 Thunderbird bumper cover is approximately 2" high by 7" wide. So too short for the 150s. Quote Selected
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