How does the rear seat back come out???? July 03, 2007, 09:34:37 AM How do you get the rear seat back out of an 87 bird? I see what appears to be 2 brackets going behind the seat belt mech. but they seem to be impossible to move. I am trying to leave to go to the jy and get some new seats but want to know what I will be up against in the middle of a jy. Thanks for the help Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #1 – July 03, 2007, 09:55:29 AM You have to remove the seat bottom first (push in, lift up). Where the rear seat belts attach to the floorpan, you'll see a T-50 Torx bolt. The top seat back has metal tangs that attach to those bolts. So you have to remove the T-50's...which sometimes is much easier said than done. On older cars those bolts are often stuck like a mofookie in the floorpan. Just be patient. Once those bolts are out the rear seat back just unhooks from the top. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #2 – July 03, 2007, 09:58:32 AM You are right! There are two brackets behind the seat belt mech. and they are impossible to move! :) They are held on with some T50 bolts that go through the floor. The back ends of these bolts are usually rusted solid. I had to use heat to get them out of my base model but I grounded the tops off on my parts car. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #3 – July 03, 2007, 10:04:45 AM It's not a problem on our RUST FREE southern cars... Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #4 – July 03, 2007, 10:54:11 AM Yea, those are the rotten bolts I am looking at right now. I guess the plan will be to go get the fronts and the rear lower and see how the bolts are on the car in the yard. I can grind or heat the ones in my car here but will hope for the best on the car at the j/y. I will post some pics once its done as the car at the j/y has a near perfect interior. Its that late 80's w house red but atleast it will match the car. Thanks for the help as always. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #5 – July 03, 2007, 04:22:44 PM Well here are some pics of the seats I got today. This brings us to my next question. These seats are power lumbar also and my original were not. When I removed the pass seat from my car I found a harness coming thru the floor that is attatched to a bracket and seems to just dead end there with the plug also on the bracket. Could I be so lucky as to just be able to plug in to the seat harness and be good to go? Figured I would ask first since I am not a big fan of car fires. I will be going back at some point with a torch to get the rear seat back out as the lovely bolts are rusted worse than the ones in my car which I didnt think possible. Anyhow here are the new seats and if anyone has any thoughts on the lumbar deal let me know. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #6 – July 03, 2007, 04:31:15 PM You should be able to I would think. I had the same power lumbar in my 88 TC parts car. I didn't try to swap it though Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #7 – July 04, 2007, 12:13:34 AM I agree with Turbocoupe500,our Sothern cars don't suffer the same illnesses as you Northern guys.Grab the harness from the car you got the seats from for the power lumbar. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #8 – July 04, 2007, 02:04:51 AM On that note, I should have the harness for the power lumbar out of the TC parts car. I'll check and let you know Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #9 – July 04, 2007, 08:04:44 AM Quote from: vinnietbird;158395I agree with Turbocoupe500,our Sothern cars don't suffer the same illnesses as you Northern guys.Grab the harness from the car you got the seats from for the power lumbar.My car came from Edmonton, a very northern place, and those torx bolts still had their treated finish when I took my seats out with a plain Mastercraft swivel ratchet. It's not about how far south you are, it's about how much salt the car sees. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #10 – July 04, 2007, 08:19:07 AM QuoteWhen I removed the pass seat from my car I found a harness coming thru the floor that is attatched to a bracket and seems to just dead end there with the plug also on the bracket. It doesn't look like this, does it?This is the plugs and relays for power locks.. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #11 – July 04, 2007, 08:49:35 AM Quote from: oldraven;158443 It's not about how far south you are, it's about how much salt the car sees.True, but the roads are seldom salted this far south... So even beaters are generally rust free...Once and a while one that's lived at the ocean front will be rusty... Had a '80 Monza that the door skins flapped from being down at Sandbridge(ocean front residential section in southern VA Beach)... Good running little car, only 65K but a POS body wise... Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #12 – July 04, 2007, 08:57:45 AM Quote from: TurboCoupe50;158448True, but the roads are seldom salted this far south... So even beaters are generally rust free...Once and a while one that's lived at the ocean front will be rusty... Had a '80 Monza that the door skins flapped from being down at Sandbridge(ocean front residential section in southern VA Beach)... Good running little car, only 65K but a POS body wise...I hear that. Believe it or not, there aren't any rusty cars on the roads in Nova Scotia. That's because we have annual inspections and if there are any holes through the body it cannot pass inspection. So that takes care of the roads. There are more rusty cars parked in back yards than drivable ones in the driveway, though. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #13 – July 04, 2007, 09:31:04 AM Want to see rusty cars?Come to Western Canada! Or look at my signature.. Quote Selected
How does the rear seat back come out???? Reply #14 – July 04, 2007, 09:45:26 AM Rust in Western Canada? You don't even know, man. Quote Selected