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Re: Custom made spindles for coil-overs?

Reply #15
Quote from: cougarman
They are from Granatelli motorsport, iirc, they had about 3-4 inches of adjustment the springs were 500lbs. It's been awhile since I had them, traded them for a set of Cobra r's and some air tools. If I find any more info I'll post it. :grinno:


500# springs on a coil-over?!?!?  That is WAY high for a street car, and very few, if any off the shelf struts will be able to cope w/ that wheel rate.  You sure about that number?
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #16
Quote from: Tbird232ci
were those for the stock struts?

TC struts.
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

Re: Custom made spindles for coil-overs?

Reply #17
Quote from: Chuck W
500# springs on a coil-over?!?!?  That is WAY high for a street car, and very few, if any off the shelf struts will be able to cope w/ that wheel rate.  You sure about that number?


No, I am not. Been quite awhile, I know the car rode "real" stiff, almost solid. :dunno:
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

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Reply #18
With 500# springs I can see why...oof!
I can't remember what the exact ratio is on the Foxes, but that is almost like a 1000# spring in the stock location.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #19
Yep, that's why they were taken off, Mustang springs gave a much smoother ride. :)
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

Re: Custom made spindles for coil-overs?

Reply #20
Granetelli, I'm pretty sure thats my brand!  And upon seeing the pic, that's exactly what I had.  Springs look like pretty much the same length too.  But, when I measure mine, measure just the spring, not as an assembled kit, right?

Does anyone have pics of this kit on the car, wheel off?  Also, what tires sizes are all of you with 17x9's running and about how much clearance do you have between spring and tire?  Thanks

Re: Custom made spindles for coil-overs?

Reply #21
Right, you just measure the free-length of the spring with no load.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

 

Re: Custom made spindles for coil-overs?

Reply #22
Generally, the springs supplied with coil-overs are short enough that the lower spring perch is above the top of the front tire. You can just buy shorter springs in the correct diameter/length/rate to get the lower perch far enough up the strut to not cause interference with the tire/wheel. By the way, what backspacing are you running on the r's on the front?

Holy God, 500lb/in coil-overs? That's equivalent to 1800lb/in springs in the standard location! For future refefence, the motion ratios for fox cars are:

Front:
conventional springs: .25
coil-overs: .9

Rear:
conventional springs: .5
coil-overs: .95

To calclulate wheel rate, multiply your spring rate by theses numbers.

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Reply #23
I'm using a 10" 375lb Hypercoil spring on my TBird.  This is with Koni double adjustable struts.  The ride is firm and controlled,  but not harsh.

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Reply #24
I think the backspacing on my wheels is 5.95 inches.  They are the proper wheels for a fox car...

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Reply #25
One other thing I just thought of...

When I put the coil-overs in, I modified the stock TC caster/camber plates (or whatever the stock pieces would be called) to work with the coil-overs.  In the end, the top of the strut was still at the same location as it was before the coil-overs or before the plate modification.  So I figured this should be fine, but maybe not...??  And if I was to use different plates, which ones should I use (since the holes arent reversed on one side like on a mustang)?

Re: Custom made spindles for coil-overs?

Reply #26
The c/c plates (or the stock upper strut mounts) will have no effect on the spacing between the strut body and the wheel/tire.  It is a fixed mounting at the spindle and the distance will always be constant regardless of how much you mive the upper mount around..
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #27
Thanks Chuck, I understand that of course.  I was thinking vertical changes though.  Maybe a plate other than the TC plate would cause the strut to mount higher in the engine compartment, raising the splindle and therefore changing the angle of the entire assembly?

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Reply #28
Nope..it will still be the same distance between the strut and the wheel/tire no matter how high you mount it.  It is a fixed mounting point at the spindle....

I'm still going to guess your primary problem is that the springs are too long. 

Shooting some pics would help us out greatly....
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

Re: Custom made spindles for coil-overs?

Reply #29
Ok, thanks....I'm working on measurement and pics.  The car and kit are in WI at my parents house.  I'm in CA so it's kinda tough!